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🇯🇵 colgate does the AA program in japan 🇯🇵 - day 14bc: high fives......COMPLETED

Joined
Aug 5, 2021
Goal
BANG!! japanese chicks!
Age
27
Motto
consistency. acceptance. tumescence.
Location
tokyo, japan
lol least likely guy to do the AA program but here we are

will explain later and also reward myself with a colgate-style long introspective character-limit-busting post when i actually finish this. but i need exposure therapy to the (actually understandable) ice cold blowouts of japanese chicks


day 4
  • walk up to 5 women and ask them for the time. LEAVE
    • -> すみません、今何時ですか?



knocked this out real quick on my way home.

fourth chick REFUSED to give me the time, fifth chick was a duo and wanted to blow me out but divulged the time after i asked.



i will say that even with just this small drill, i'm realizing there have been so many times where i thought a chick was just going to ignore me and i bounced before genuinely trying to stop her, but seems like i probably wasn't committing enough to some approaches!
 
day 5
  • Walk up to 5 women and ask them for the time. LEAVE.
  • Walk up to 5 women again an ask them for the time, but do the drill faster. LEAVE.

swapped out すみません for こんにちは because why do i need to be apologizing lol. words prob don't matter as much as my actual stop tho

felt resistance for a minute before starting but then realized i was just asking chicks for the time lol

in set 1, one girl refused to give me the time and set 2, two girls blew me off despite asking twice and standing my ground

part of me is empathetic to the fact that girls (and guys too! for "massages"...) are constantly scouted so there are just so many chicks who are in total antisocial mode and want to gtfo, but the other part of me is internally raging at asian social autism.

whatever, there were 7 girls who did actually tell me the time. there was one who seemed like she was going to blow me off until i asked for the time and then she showed her phone.

the POSITIVE BLOOMER mindset is she would have also lit up at me opening her for real.

when i first tried to do the AA program, i was fresh faced and bounced on day 5 because it was just like "i honestly want to tell these girls they're hot and not ask for the fucking time!" but now 2.5 years later, and NOT in southern hospitality tennessee, i have developed too much give-a-fuck-itis.

but hey at least I don't give af when asking for the time lol
 
ENTERING THE SHOGUNS DOJO

THESE HOES HAVE TO BOW WHEN THEY ENTER THE BROWN SHOGUNS PLACE

HUHHH DUHHHH
 
day 6
  • Time, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Have you been there?, Leave
  • Repeat this 5 times today, you will speak to 15 girls in total.

今何時ですか?
ビックカメラわかる?どこにある?
ビックカメラに行ったことがある?

ok getting some more insights. the thing is in america you can probably do this drill in 15 approaches. very rare for girls to just blow your existence out.

took me around 20-25 in actuality. i only counted drills if i did the whole prompt. which is a learning point for me.

trolled some chicks by going in the exact opposite direction they pointed me and heard them laughing in the background.

in my old paid nampa group, rarely did anyone explicate how many approaches they did. they just went out for x hours and either posted lays for the day or "nada".

the point is that i am unlearning and unwiring my obsession with number of approaches, and being focused on my objective.

now the objective here with this day is to just get time+directions+leave, but i can see how this will help me focus on my real objective more which will be to BANG!! japanese chicks!



also vibed too hard with a taiwanese tourist who was clearly instadatable but i have a date in less than an hour. and the taiwanese chick leaves tomorrow. FUCK!!! pancakemouse was right
 
I just cannot believe the KING OF SELF IMPROVEMENT is back

We have a real legend returning to the fore

An inspiration to us all, including me

BROWN SHOGUN
 
back on it.

day 7
  • Time, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Have you been there?, Leave
  • Repeat this 5 times today, you will speak to 15 girls in total.

did 3 sets and then brain started whining and bringing up many bad childhood experiences because it wants to stay at home and browse the internet all day instead of LITERALLY FULFILLING ITS BIOLOGICAL PURPOSE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU. the brain is like a chick, it shit tests you as well

had to meet a friend for dinner where he bolstered my ego for 120 minutes and finished the final two sets

I'm glad I'm doing this program because i'm catching myself really persist with sets that i would have otherwise let blow me off. specifically some girls will start to walk away after my SIMPLE REQUEST FOR THE FUCKING TIME and i just say TIME! TIME! (時間!時間!)and then some give it and even stop. one chick pointed at a giant clock in front of us lololol

it's like I've unlocked a new initial test some girls do to see if you will own your approach. this will be something to remember for real approaches.

going forward, i need to find ways to disarm my brain when it starts going full "hey remember that time you SUCKED in 2004? you FUCKING RETARD! LOL! i can't believe you're trying to talk to girls! feel bad instead!"

the friend dinner was a great one, but one i can do solo and any time I'm out would be ideal. maybe playing some games in the arcade or a round at the batting cage might be an ok idea...
 
fell off for a week. i vegetabled in my room and only went out when my wings dmed me because i didn't want to seem like the lame ass who doesn't approach



day 8
  • Time, Leave (talk to very first girl you see; DONT let her slip by)
  • Time, Directions, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Have you been there?, Leave
  • Time, Directions, Have you been there?, Do you like it?, Leave
    • If the girl says "No, I haven't been there" repeat the drill on another girl who has and ask her "Do you like it?"
  • Repeat this 4 times today, you will speak to 16 girls in total.

felt lots of resistance. and this day was annoying because i had to bail on girls who said they hadn't been to the place. especially annoying in japan where you can't even guarantee the girl will actually talk to you.

luckily i had fewer botched approaches because i REFUSED to let chicks go until they just gave me the fucking time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

switched from an electronics store to mcdonalds because literally every chick has eaten at mcdonalds.

still, i decided to bail on chicks who said they didn't know where the mcdonald's was for rep 4.

there was one chick who almost rolled her eyes at me asking for the time and she robotically and autistically ignored me. so i just kept saying "time! time! time!". this one i got irritated by and even flipped to english midway, but still no dice. determined to literally get the damn time, i actually followed her down an escalator and literally point blank said "GIVE ME THE TIME!" (in japanese, 時間教えてくれ!) and she finally showed her phone and i bounced. this rep didn't count because it was rep 4, but i was being way too reactive about a chick in a bad mood.

i contemplated this rep and realized that i obviously overreacted, and the fact that she didn't actually bounce means if this were a real approach, i actually could have stuck in the set and just started monologuing, asking if she had a bad day and tried to level with her on why her attitude might have been so sour up front. like i genuinely think she was just tired and had a bad day, and the right guy could probably cheer her up by shifting her mood and mind off of it or something. i think it's a better idea to just give girls the benefit of the doubt instead of assuming they are all bitches.



i think something that's making me feel apathetic is there's zero novelty to approach anymore. yet, i still have to get over the beginner beginner hump all over again. and i get excited by novelty and bored easily.

but i literally have nothing else to do in life. the reason i moved to japan was to talk to and bang hot chicks like i'm a visual novel protagonist. having my main focus be literally anything else just causes a big red POINTLESS! sign to flash in my head. because the thing i've wanted my whole life was to be able to bang japanese girls and i am incomplete without being able to do this.



i will repeat day 8 because i want to be able to do it again without feeling massive resistance and i felt like i was getting smooth again towards the end.
 
repeated day 8 again

and it took me 13 approaches to get through the first set (4 reps).

the first chick i tried to ask the time from, she looked at me and then NODDED no and accelerated ahead.

another chick, i asked for the time a couple times, and she looked away and kept walking in the same direction. i decided to imitate her walking style, then i was like "why won't you tell me the time!!!" then she stopped, looked away from me, and point blank jaywalked across the street.

the 4th rep was a grind because you have to talk to girls until one says they've actually been there. and even though i would indeed get the time from girls, they would storm off when i tried to continue the drill. "where is the mcdonalds?" "idk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" *speedwalks ahead*



i realized that i was overreacting too much, and just having this thought of "these bitches won't even tell me the time, imagine if i genuinely needed to know!" clouding my head wasn't helping. the reality is i'm doing these drills in one of the most notorious spots for pickup in japan, dressed like a nampa guy myself.

and i failed to mention that there were plenty of nice, sweet girls who did actually indulge me in my quest to find the elusive mcdonald's of ikebukuro.

i remembered this post i made 2.5 years ago when i was approaching in america
colgate said:
I've talked about how I think "rejection is mileage" several times, but the concept really crystallized today in a hallucinogenic dream I had after my 2pm date left. I saw myself 400 miles out on the Interstate in the desert. And my exit is 163 miles away. I could sit around (e.g. like how I did in Nashville for about 2-3 weeks) and complain about how I'm not at the exit yet, or I could keep going and see the rejections and adversity as necessary prerequisites for the positive outcomes.

the same thing applies here. i mean the guy who originally coined this "rejection is mileage" concept literally approaches here in japan. the only difference is really that girls don't try to be nice and smiley on rejections, unlike america.

it's funny that japan is considered some "indirect culture" and westerners are considered more "direct", but when it comes to girls being approached, they will let you know straight up that they are not in the mood.



i pressed forward. i need to do these drills. there's no other option.

indeed there were plenty of girls who pulled out their phones and used the map app to guide me to mcdonalds. some also knew the mcdonalds and gave me thorough directions as if i was actually a tourist here.

it's funny that my post started off with blackpill rage energy, and that's what seemed to stick more in my head. i guess even if you eat 20 pieces of candy but get punched twice in the stomach, you'll remember being punched in the stomach more than the tasty candy.



at the end of the day, one factor of success in cold approach is the ability to recognize being able to brush off bitchy girls and forge your path forward anyway. they exist, move on!

it's also difficult to overcome this if you have some kind of childhood trauma or issues to resolve. because then you just mentally map negative reactions to some traumatic past event in your life. you have to be careful not to misdirect negative reactions to those types of emotions and memories. and do the work of resolving those issues separately, as they come up. every guy who seriously does cold approach has dealt with thousands of bitterly negative reactions, especially in japan, but now they've hardened like steel to it. and they can use that hardness INSIDE THE HOT CHICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is the process i must also go through.
 
colgate said:
fell off for a week. i vegetabled in my room and only went out when my wings dmed me because i didn't want to seem like the lame ass who doesn't approach

What do you actually do on the computer when you lose days on it? I saw a few times you mentioned that you get sucked in, but I can't tell whether its gaming, porn, 4chan , lost in wikipedia, or whatever. I reckon identifying this is the first step to recognising and managing it.

P.S - you always write with an entertaining tone on here, I like it.
 
Antonio44 said:
What do you actually do on the computer when you lose days on it?

strangely NOT porn, nor gaming. i have also deleted pretty much all of my social media except instagram, which i have also never browsed

it's usually a combination of browsing and chatting the two pickup chats i am in, browsing KYIL, browsing old websites/communities i used to be active in, and extreme youtube binging

"checking up on the past" and "voyeuring cool people" are two of the most dopamine inducing activities for me.

i have bought a timer lock and have decided to lock my phone and laptop away for most of the day. this has been very effective, though it is only as effective as when i actually do it. trying to turn this into a routine where i just lock it at certain times instead of relying on "willpower" and "realizations" to lock it
 
colgate said:
strangely NOT porn, nor gaming. i have also deleted pretty much all of my social media except instagram, which i have also never browsed

it's usually a combination of browsing and chatting the two pickup chats i am in, browsing KYIL, browsing old websites/communities i used to be active in, and extreme youtube binging

"checking up on the past" and "voyeuring cool people" are two of the most dopamine inducing activities for me.

i have bought a timer lock and have decided to lock my phone and laptop away for most of the day. this has been very effective, though it is only as effective as when i actually do it. trying to turn this into a routine where i just lock it at certain times instead of relying on "willpower" and "realizations" to lock it
I have the same problem. My job is on the computer so I have a habit of spending literally all day on the computer, watching youtube, looking at pickup chats/forums, etc. What I've realized is that the hardest thing about this stuff is getting outside and doing it. Once I'm outside, it's virtually guaranteed I will approach,

I guess what I'm saying is, it's harder to leave the house than it is to approach in my experience. At least once you have gotten past your AA enough that it's not ridiculously debilitating.

I do find it interesting that you're doing the AA program again though, because don't you have 2000+ approaches under your belt? I'd think you wouldn't need the AA program after having done that many approaches.
 
Squilliam said:
I do find it interesting that you're doing the AA program again though, because don't you have 2000+ approaches under your belt? I'd think you wouldn't need the AA program after having done that many approaches.

i will answer this in more detail when i finish the program
 
day 9
  • Time, Leave (talk to very first girl you see; DONT let her slip by)
  • Time, Have you ever eaten at [nearby restaurant]?, Leave
  • Time, Have you ever eaten at [nearby restaurant]?, Did you like it?, Leave
    • If the girl answers "No, I haven't eaten there," you need to still ask her "Did you like it?"
  • Repeat this 5 times today, you will speak to 15 girls in total

i decided the rule going forward for counting reps is if the girl actually answers my questions. just plowing through with the questions without her acknowledging doesn't count.

i will avoid explicating upon the "botched approaches" and girls blowing me off. these will happen no matter what and it's important to not misdirect those to the parts of your brain where deep childhood traumas are stored.

some girls will just be bizarre. the amount of bizarre people is nonzero. you just need to move on because there are normal, social chicks waiting for you

on the final drill of the final set, the chick was extremely shy and subdued. i managed to open her up like "yeah i've never been to japanese mcdonalds so i'm trying to get some opinions" and then she responded.

i think this was the first time thus far in the program i reacted to potentially "strange" chicks in the correct way. not immediately pussying out and bouncing, not angrily ordering them to do shit. just trying to level with them.
 
day 10
  • Time, Leave (talk to very first girl you see; DONT let her slip by)
    • 今は何時ですか?
  • Time, Do you know if there is a movie theater near here?, Leave
    • ここらへんには映画館がありますか?
  • Time, Do you know if there is a movie theater near here?, Have you seen any good movies
    lately?, Leave
    • 最近何かいい映画を見ましたか?何かおすすめがありますか?
  • Repeat this 5 times today, you will speak to 15 girls in total.



wow! so many girls were helpful and nice!

3 of the girls pulled out their maps app and diligently searched for the theater for me. and two girls started smiling and laughing when i said i'll go see their movie recommendation.

it only took me 25 minutes to do the drills today.

i had some botched approaches, but some of them it was like the equivalent of scaring a cat; no matter how good your intentions, if you come too strong onto a cat, she will tense up and run away.

and of course there are also occasional antisocial weirdos who just ignore your existence with a blank, slightly irritated face. but if you think about it, there are people in this world who are socially maladjusted or maybe just had a bad day. that includes attractive girls as well. so there's no reason to get angry or depressed, just find a girl who is in a better mood instead.

and it is of utmost importance to do the inner work simultaneously. while taking real action, your deep issues will surface up. and then you need to take some time to journal, go on long, phone-free solo walks, or whatever allows you to get you into deep focus into yourself.
 
day 11
  • Time, Leave (talk to very first girl you see; DONT let her slip by)
    • 今は何時ですか?
  • Time, Is there a place that sells cell phones around here?, Leave
    • ここらへんにはスマホの店がありますか?
  • Time, Is there a place that sells cell phones around here?, What phone do you have?, Leave
    • どんなスマホ持ってますか?
  • Time, Is there a place that sells cell phones around here?, What phone do you have?, Do you
    like it? Leave
    • いいスマホですか?
  • Repeat this 5 times today, you will speak to 20 girls in total.

i replaced "cell phone" for "smartphone"

also in japan 95% of people have an iphone, so it's a bit of a strange question. i was kind of hoping to find the one girl with an android or something lol. i naturally caught myself saying "dang everyone has an iphone here in this country"

i didn't count a rep if a chick tried to give some copout answer and darted off away or if she started ignoring me midway through a rep.

despite that, took only around 45 minutes to do the drills, and i think under 25 approaches for the 20 drills. i think my brain is starting to accept and simply move on from the occasional botched approaches.

my favorite moment today is when i saw two equally attractive girls standing next to each other waiting. i approached one at random, and she totally ignored me, but the chick next to her was looking at me and she gave me the time instead. that was kind of cool lol.
 
day 12
  • Time, Leave
    • 今は何時ですか?
  • Time, Random question-Do you know anywhere that sells nice candles?, Leave
    • いきなりですが、ここらへんにはロウソクが買える店がありますか?
  • Time, Random question-Do you know anywhere that sells nice candles?, I'm planning a candlelit dinner for my girlfriend, Leave
    • 彼女とロマンチックなディナーを計画しているんで
  • Time, Random question-Do you know anywhere that sells nice candles?, I'm planning a
    candlelit dinner for my girlfriend, I'm the sweetest guy ever, Leave
    • 僕はすごく優しい男ですね。
  • Repeat this 4 times today, you will speak to 16 girls in total.

extremely easy drill, literally took me under 20 minutes.

did it in a dress shirt after having to go to the office today, at a different station.
 
day 13
  • Time, Leave (talk to very first girl you see; DONT let her slip by)
    • 今は何時ですか?
  • Time, Random question- Do you know anywhere that sells good wine?, Leave
    • ここらへんにはワインが買えるところがありますか?
  • Time, Random question- Do you know anywhere that sells good wine?, I got a promotion at work/Passed my test at school and I want to celebrate, Leave
    • 祝いたいので
    • 理想の会社に入社できたんで
    • I started with saying something like "I just got hired at my dream company and want to celebrate", but I found that first saying "I want to celebrate" first and then "because I got hired at my dream company" afterwards yielded better reactions and I didn't feel like I was autistically bragging about my job lol
  • Time, Random question- Do you know anywhere that sells good wine?, I got a promotion at work/Passed my test at school and I want to celebrate, What type do you recommend?, Leave
    • ワインのおすすめがありますか?
  • Repeat this 4 times today, you will speak to 16 girls in total

another extremely easy drill. i think the fact that these are becoming easy is a good sign, according to lacroix i was struggling even getting the time earlier.

i'm making it a point to barely even mention weird blowouts because i'm really getting used to them. but notably today:
  • chick pulled out her earbuds to hear my question about the time, then promptly put them back in and walked off without answering
  • another chick walked off while i was asking about whether there was a wine place nearby, but two girls nearby saw and heard the whole thing, so i just went up to them and finished off the drill.

i'm getting blown off far less than earlier though, and i want to stress that most girls do actually try to help! at the very minimum they'll entertain the drill.

maybe my vibe is settling in, but i am also going for girls who look like they're chilled out or waiting around. but this is PLENTY of volume and definitely enough to get me started. it only took me around 30-40 minutes to go up to 16 girls. i feel like you have to approach approaching japanese girls like you are going to try to get friendly with a cat lol; if you come on too strong, they will freeze up and try to scurry off. 警戒心が強いな
 
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