Sisyphus said:
l0vebone said:
Didn't read your post, only the title.
Eat once a day, you have 15 minutes to eat everything that you can. After that 15 minutes is up, you cannot eat until tomorrow. Only liquids like orange juice or water.
In a month, you should have a six pack
this is false. Eating once a day won't make you leaner. For the most part, it's about getting into a caloric deficit. There are other factors (endocrine system and genetics, which body fat distribution). Eating once a day/intermittent fasting will facilitate eating less, but it's not a necessary condition. Btw, drinking orange juice does break a fast, it has way too many calories and the same or less nutritional value than the solid fruit (which gives more saciety)
To achieve a six pack, you need to be 8-10% body fat, at 10-12% you will have a hint of a six pack. I assume you are 20-25%, so it should take 6 months minimum, 500kcal of deficit everyday. Doing excercise will increase your daily caloric use, although diet is way more important. You just need to be really really consistent and honest with yourself. What you don't measure, you can't improve. Weigh yourself in the scale and do a weekly average. Download myfitnesspal and log your food daily. If you are obsessive, use a scale to weigh your food, we are really good at bullshiting ourselves.
Did you miss the part where I said he has 15 minutes to eat his one meal a day? It would be impossible for anyone to get anywhere near maintenance doing that. The reason I said he can drink OJ/milk/or have a strawberry shake or something, is because he's going to get into an extreme deficit.
As for the rest, slow cuts are just bro science. Gaining muscle and losing fat are two different things completely. When youre gaining muscle you can only gain so much at a time, so you want to have a very small surplus. When youre losing fat, you can go as hard as your mental wants to take you, doing extreme deficits.
"But wait, you will lose muscle!" No, you will lose an equal amount of muscle going fast, or going slow. The mechanisms of losing fat are different than gaining muscle. As long as youre working out you will retain the same amount of muscles. There is no reason to stretch a cut to 3 months when you can have the same results in 1.
Lostcause said:
l0vebone said:
Didn't read your post, only the title.
Eat once a day, you have 15 minutes to eat everything that you can. After that 15 minutes is up, you cannot eat until tomorrow. Only liquids like orange juice or water.
In a month, you should have a six pack
Or anorexia.
In both cases - flat stomach.
Pretty much. If I'm fat, I would much rather be anorexic and start with that as base then do a prolonged cut with a prolonged bulk. You would get results much quicker. 1 month cut + 4 months clean bulk then and repeat this cycle every 5-6 months.
Cutting -> youre able to do it as fast as you can handle,
Bulking -> is limited by your bodies genetics.
How much muscle your retain on a cut will be the same if you are doing extreme deficit or a prolonged 3 month+ cut.
This has been my experience watching tons of professional fighters do extreme cuts, theyve all retained their muscle and strength.
There was another jacked + ripped guy on here who echoed the same sentiment.
Long cuts are just torture and come from a position of ignorance. Why spend 3 months doing something you can do in 1 month, just so its a little bit easier? The only time I would recommend someone a long cut is if they don't have the mental game to tough it out for 1 month and would go back to binge eating as soon as the cut is over. Personally, I like instant results and have no problem forcing myself to do things that I don't like.
