how do you explain the guys that got nothing out of 1000approaches? I also feel like a bluepiller who doesn't know that attraction (or lack of thereof) is created within a fraction of a second. So I feel like a cuck who's entertaining a girl when the outcome is already decided.
The numbers I got from the club were from girls who stared at me all night. I would have to approach a girl who didn't notice me to believe in game, and even then I would have to ask her if she found me attractive from the start
by the way, we're not so distant as it may seem, I do believe in something and it's "social circle game". There are this girl at the club, they are super hot and like 19yo and they are dating illegal immigrants they met within their social circle. they simply bought weed from them I think
These guys are not better looking but the girls are hot, I can send a picture if you want of a girl I find very attractive and her current boyfriend. I can't believe my life revolves around this while a girl that hot is fucking a guy that's average at best and selling weed.
What's most fucked up is that he probably think that this girl is nothing special while I get a small heart attack every time I see her lol
So we can agree there's another form of attraction, which I would call "attraction through proximity". Maybe the female brain evolved for this kind of attraction, or maybe I'm being too harsh and those guys are actually good looking?
in any case I will approach and test game. I will try to follow all the rules and not snap or rage at girls.
Yeah social circle, situational status from selling drugs (not encouraging it btw) and specially preselection are a big factor, but those guys also tend to be decent at game or at least some aspects of it. They may suck with cold approach but they are decent with girls they already know. Maybe they aren't great at being fun but they are decent at not trying hard , so they stick around, don't make noticeably beta mistakes, maybe they know a move or two that creates sexual tension (eye contact, being close, talking to the girl's ear), play for the long term instead of trying to close right away, and end up getting the girl.
Most guys in the club scene have better social skills than guys on the internet and some of them pull hotter girls than most puas. Yes there's the social circle factor, but they also have better vibe and better social intuition. They may even do push pull teasing, roleplays and game techniques but in an unconscious way.
Just because they don't cold approach and don't read game books doesn't mean they don't have game.
The problem is these two things (social circle and social skills) correlate a lot so it's hard to know whether it's just social circle or there's something more to it.
But I've also met very average or even ugly short and fat guys without these type of nightlife jobs or status that get attention from very hot girls just by having a social circle and social skills.
There's definitely skill involved in this game, just not the type of exclusively analytical skill that most guys entering game would hope for. It's all still about "looks" in a way, just not necessarily about physical appeareance, but it's still very shallow, being perceived in a certain way, and not about "real" connection or being actually high value and interesting.