Hey dawg good to hear you’re enjoying your time in NY
I hesitate to post up cos all I’m saying could be wrong. You got IRL guys telling you what to do.
I think clearly inner game is the sticking point here or at least the cause of the “lack of frame” with the girls.
Yup.
I am understanding it a lot more, man, and all roads point to Inner Game. I want to speak to Pancake about it while I'm in NYC and make sure I am understanding it correctly. But I think we're on the right lines now.
I am working on Inner Game for about 2hrs a day, intentionally - reframing beliefs, questioning concepts and ideas, digging deep into my psyche and healing.
I think there is trauma and baggage from the past that needs clearing! Like most carry. But, good news is, doing lots and lots better, and will crack it in the end.
My guess is this might b part of it. All beliefs are a double edged sword. Do you think you carry this into dates? Some girls will like this but some girls want a man who didn’t struggle. Even if not it’s a different feeling walking around with this belief or life is a gift or life sucks etc.
True.
I would say my vibe on dates, is a guy who is open, chill, calm, and just very "vibey". Convos with girls who are in my wavelength, are easy, flow playfully, and the energy is fun, sexual, chill.
My headspace in more recent times, is more grounded than it was. And this is why I am reporting different subjective experiences within the log, of increased female attention, and very subtle signs of increased levels of attraction.
You’re already working on the inner game so that’s hectic. By monk mode do you mean being a hermit?
More or less, brah.
I do fear what a life of a hermit could do to my social skills. And I have been thinking, I may join Toastmasters, and other groups, to meet people and build connections in the world. Thing is, my parents place, which is where I am planning to go back to for my monk mode stint, isn't exactly a thriving metropolosis. That said, I have a car, and the UK isn't a large place. It's not hard for me to venture further afield.
A year long daygame tour sounds fucking sick! I personally doubt if you’re going to meet Mrs.Right in Bali and then jet off to Thailand the next day.
I'm thinking carefully about it, to be honest.
Right now, I'm thinking....
6-7 months monk mode for business, Nov 2024 - May 2025.
Re-emerge June 2025, go back to NYC for a month or 2, live with Carl. Kick off the day game world tour in amazing fashion, with the guys here, and of course, Dante.
I haven't been to the Nordic countries before, so may give them a go for summer 2025.
August, I think I'll head to Europe. If you remember the earlier point of this log, I enjoyed Poland for day game. I was too green then but the women were at least nice, would talk, and now I have enough masculinity and core, I think I'd have had some real success.
Oct 2025, I want to venture further afield, and see what product market fitment for me is like down under.
I'll be staying in each location, for 3 months at a time, which will be long enough to hopefully have built some real connections and enjoyed more deep life experiences, as opposed to empty hookups.
And of course, if I can find a market where the data suggests things are more favourable for me, and I am meeting quality women who want to get to know me, we're onto a winner.
Maybe you already have done this, but the social circle route - yoga, group fitness, nutrition course, etc. Yoga/nutrition super female skewed too. Seems silly to go back home and stop socialising, I think dropping the apps is worth it.
I've not done that at all.
Intentionally building a social circle, with cool and interesting people, and attractive girls, would be great, and something I can absolutely do.
I recall a few weeks ago, hanging out with a client of mine, Z, and spending time with his social circle. There was this really cute Asian girl who was chatting with me for about 2hours and I recall how the social context allowed for such an exploratory and genuine conversation, that we often don't breach in our dating jaunts, until we have gotten far closer with a girl. Something I still crave....
About the apps. I can’t believe your lack of results are because of your looks or being too Indian. Like I am as Indian and bald. Big move. Cos you’d have the contacts. Ask some guys to run your profile in different parts of the world. Also not your number/phone etc to make sure it isn’t some shadow ban shit.
Man, when you, and other brown guys, tell me this, there is a moment when I'm comforted.
But I then open the bastard apps up again and it's weeks/months of crickets!
Could be some shadow ban BS. But dude, I am on my second f**king burner phone lmao. New number, new IMEI, new everything! If they just keep shadowbanning my ass on those apps, this would explain it.
I am OK with it right now.
Because after a certain point of lays with the apps, you're learning legit nothing. You're not becoming a better man, not improving your masculinity and vibe.
It's just "getting laid" for getting laid's sake.
Which, I get, and welcome this for those whom it is their goal.
But that shit is getting empty as hell for me and I would love to get into something serious and experience my first proper girlfriend. My ass is 33 and I am healing enough emotionally now to feel like I have gotten past my "getting laid" phase to a great extent.
IRL, I am quite an attractive lad, tall, in shape, well spoken, intelligent, charming and charismatic. On the apps, f**k knows what the issue is.
How I'm dealing with it right now, mate, is I've got a photoshoot literally this Sunday, and gonna do my level best to crush it. I'll throw them up, and see if it gets a little something, and I'll rest my head on my pillow at night knowing I did my best and that I have done what I can at this current stage.
If it's still crickets, I'm gonna go away and work hard on my body, get 2 full sleeves, maybe explore some cosmetic procedures, and just do whatever the fuck it takes to win.
I think tattoos for the sake of looks are silly (and you’d do way better going Shaman Guru Ravi) but we could also fake this for the apps. This was a real quick job in photoshop. I don’t understand how being covered in scribbles would change daygame results
Some people said the spiritual archetype would work better for me.
What we need to do, is get ONE picture in that style.
And see if it hits or nah.
This is gonna have to be stuff I pick up in 6 months now to be honest; I'm not in a hardcore dating cycle now.
Inner Game takes a while to be built up, and that is my sticking point, which needs to be greatly increased.
My view is, with the following:
-More muscle mass, less bodyfat
-Improved archetype: Heavy tattooing or possibly something else
-Strong Inner Game
-Improved social skills & vibe: A legit year long day game tour as a last hurrah of sorts, timeline wise, this will likely end when I am 35, which was the point in this log at the start when I said I want to get serious about finding a way
I will start to be able to attract the quality women I want, and find a quality girlfriend.
To me, having a beautiful partner to see in the week/weekends, and doing well in business, is about as close to a dream life as I could get. Great friendships and being surrounded by awesome people. Nothing could beat it. I don't want the endless new lays and variety, this is where guys get into pure sex addiction, weak minded escapism, and live the life of an underachiever who is not pushing their own limits as a man. With all due respect, it is affecting me and hurting my psyche a bit at this time. And I can't let that happen. Gotta step away and be true to myself. May feel different in 6-7 months, We'll see.
Time is flying in this journey. Done this shit for 3 years! I would say, the first year, I had 1 "top tier" sexual experience. The 2nd year was quite meh. And the 3rd year, has brought me 2 "top tier" sexual experiences, one gal in Mexico was fucking legendary, and then the gal in NYC gave me the best sexual experience of my life, hands down, the best and gonna be dreaming of that one for a long time.....
At the end of the day, man, all we can do is keep improving, getting more attractive, fix sticking point after sticking point, and stay in the game until we win
-Ravi