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Ravi, Year 4: Self-Improvement Log - Data-Driven, Incremental Growth [FAMILY TRIGGERS]

Great points

Honestly I was just bummed at that time after the you know what texts. I am applying myself, but the personal nature of this particular sticking point can be a bitter pill to swallow.

Nonetheless, I am sure there will be a way to fix what is currently blocking me.

But a year from now it'll be better and I will take onboard the advise outlined

I will keep diving deeper into the ACTUAL ISSUE

But I am going at this full time, I legit am.

3hrs cold appoach a day, Old work daily, dates as much as possible. I could add a night out every week and surely that is full on?

If you look at my days, MOST of the time is on dating, it's 5hrs a day on dating. I can bump that up. Weekends I an do way more.

But yeah I understand this may be a long long fix, one year may just be to set the foundation, then next year I will keep digging.

It is going in and I am processing it.

Will keep hammering,
MAC
 
MakingAComeback said:
I will keep diving deeper into the ACTUAL ISSUE

But I am going at this full time, I legit am.

3hrs cold appoach a day, Old work daily, dates as much as possible. I could add a night out every week and surely that is full on?

If you look at my days, MOST of the time is on dating, it's 5hrs a day on dating. I can bump that up. Weekends I an do way more.

You will make much faster progress by changing up your mentality to work smarter, not harder.

Many of your posts refer to "grinding", "working hard", etc. which is great, except that you'll be spinning your wheels if you're trying to do this in a vacuum and making mistakes over and over.

You can't learn approaching and dating by yourself. That's like trying to learn a language stuck on a desert island with a one-way radio transmission.

The big unlock you had after we listened to your date audio? You are at the level where you could be having one of those a WEEK.

Record all your dates. Send them to trusted guys.
Record all your daygame sets. Send them to trusted guys for analysis.
Watch content from trusted sources about cold approach and what to do on dates.

If you flipped the time you spend approaching, swiping, and dating to do some more back office work and get external feedback, you will improve quickly.
 
I am going to compile a reading list, which will include Crisis book reccomendation, Andy's reccomended articles, Pancake's reccomended articles, as well as videos which are reccomended for me in my case.

I am going to spend next week Mon - Sun intensively studying, making notes, making videos, and also recording audios to myself to really drive it in.

We will agree a game plan and execute it.

I am going to record apps & dates for analysis from now on. Disclaimer: all privacy will be 100% protected, nothing will be shared here, everything will be anonymous and nothing will ever be linked with the forum or any individuals therein, All recordings will be for my own purposes and will be destroyed within 1 week.

MAC
 
KILLING IT TODAY AND FEELING ON TOP OF THE WORLD

I left the unnamed one's chat, and after talking to Colgate and Pancakemouse, we started our own group for cold approach. The admins are colgate and Pancakemouse and their vision is a very very small group (capped at 12) which is invite only, only they can invite you. We even got access to the legend Rags2Bitches, another one of my most trusted advisors. These are the guys who got me where I am, getting dates all the time and even hammering cold approaches.

So debrief with Colgate and Pancake this morning, talked about diff concepts, and really got extremely fucking valuable insight and feedback.

I then went to cold approach. Legit my best session ever. All approaches recorded (disclaimer: personal use only and all privacy protected, audios for personal use only and will be destroyed within 24hrs).

Every approach I did, I checked in with the bros. AA was non existent. It felt like a game! Just FUN. Enjoyed my session.

We also riffed in the group

CA
1 - deflects
2 - opens, stands and chats, gorgeous girl and she is literally staring into my soul like she wants to fuck my brains out. Her eyes are flashing. Chat, ask for her number, "I would, but I don't think my boyfriend would be happy". I laugh and wish her well. She is super smiley and into it.
3 - deflects, she ran off LOL
4 - deflects
5 - she said "sorry I've got an appointment" but she did legit stop and seemed like a cool chick, she was no flustered at all, good mental state on her
6 - she was very giggly, thanked me, and walked away (cute woman)
7 - She gets her head around it then just starts laughing, very cute.
8 - This woman was ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. Ask her name and she tells me she has to go. This is one of the most beautiful human beings I have seen in my life. She said she had to get to work so she had to go lol. Her cranialfacial development was incredible, such a stunning structure to the face
9 - she's busy but I warmly say no worries and she is very smiley, ugh so pretty, she was def older than me maybe 35/37 but truly a beautiful woman
10 - she is very anxious, she looks like she is stressed and under pressure, she is pacing about a bit. She responds in kind but she is a bit overwhelmed. I am adept enough to tell, and say "I can see you're busy, but I wish you a wonderful day" and she is relieved. She may be running late or have some issue to resolve. She was an American lady. London is super diverse and I approached today in the Clapham area which is a cool part of London legit 10 mins walk from my house. My location is banging.

ALL TIME PERSONAL BEST APPROACH VOLUME - 10 APPS IN 1 HR!!!!!!

Go to Whole Foods to reward myself and get some delicious treats, organic and healthy for MAC Daddy.

Then it starts raining and it's time for me to go home! On the walk home, one more approach, and she exchanges.

11 - open her and she is just SO cool, she's smiling and super into it, wow. She is pretty toom, tall, ugh....love it. She says she can't give her number to a stranger, but I say fine follow me on Instagram, and she says fine.

I'll push on IG using Andy's texting sequence.

Pancake was dropping some GEMS on myself and Colgate this morning about our areas for development, and laying our a vision for how we can breakthrough.

I was PUMPED and then shot a quick physique pic before I went to cold approach. The muscle is slowly building up and filling my clothes out and I can tell you, at this stage, every time I leave the house I do get women (and to be honest, men...) looking at me. I have improved my looks enough to get a girl when I put the pieces of the puzzle I am screwing up together.

Check it out. I was obese when I joined and had no muscle left. Look at me now. I am coming back now. Muscle is starting to come back. Fat is going down. This is my week off the gym, but still will do cardio 2 x, and do 2 40 hr fasts,

Shred off the final bit of fat and build an elite body. Super narrow waist, enormous fucking shoulders (I have had very very good delt development in the past at age 24). Overall bring in a brilliant physique, get a HT done, get tats/a sleeve. I will lock it off.

@Rags2Bitches reviewed audios and gave very very very fucking helpful feedback. There are BASIC ERRORS I make legit all the time and need to learn some fundamentals of attraction.

I'll get there.

There is always a solution.

In case you haven't noticed by now, with me, I typically grind and grind then get knocked back, eventually after getting knocked on my ass endlessly I then have a freakout. I then find a solution (bringing the best of my advisors in approach & connection building together) and go absolute savage mode. Thats what happened today. I always do this.....

MAC
 
Also going to bring in Thebastard and Jacobpalmer123 to comment on current physique

Still have bodyfat to lose but I will shred it.

Muscle is slowly coming back. Overall we have a way to go to max out my physical potential but I want to emphasise I feel like I am getting there. You've seen my pics from the start - we're getting better yes?

MAC
 
The Phoenix Project Running Totals

Cold Approaches 123 (+11 today)
CA Nos 3
CA Social Media 1 (+1 IG today)
OLD Dates 21
CA Dates 1
OLD Lays 1

Dates lined up for evert night this week.

Some will no doubt flake. Such is the game.

I have a lot to work on during these dates and will write up, record, and really focus on the next 20 dates as testiing grounds for vibe and connection.

MAC
 
My guess your about 15-17 percent body fat. I see shoulder veins. I think the majority of your fat from this photo is in your stomach. Arms and legs and face look pretty trim.

Just remember when cutting the main goal is to A. cut fat and B. Hold onto muscle. Building muscle can happen but it's not the main focus. Once you hit a good body fat you can slowly gain weight and build muscle. I think your muscle is coming in but once again just focus on cutting bf.

Otherwise looks good so far.
 
MakingAComeback said:
KILLING IT TODAY AND FEELING ON TOP OF THE WORLD

I left the unnamed one's chat, and after talking to Colgate and Pancakemouse, we started our own group for cold approach. The admins are colgate and Pancakemouse and their vision is a very very small group (capped at 12) which is invite only, only they can invite you. We even got access to the legend Rags2Bitches, another one of my most trusted advisors. These are the guys who got me where I am, getting dates all the time and even hammering cold approaches.

So debrief with Colgate and Pancake this morning, talked about diff concepts, and really got extremely fucking valuable insight and feedback.

I then went to cold approach. Legit my best session ever. All approaches recorded (disclaimer: personal use only and all privacy protected, audios for personal use only and will be destroyed within 24hrs).

Every approach I did, I checked in with the bros. AA was non existent. It felt like a game! Just FUN. Enjoyed my session.

We also riffed in the group

CA
1 - deflects
2 - opens, stands and chats, gorgeous girl and she is literally staring into my soul like she wants to fuck my brains out. Her eyes are flashing. Chat, ask for her number, "I would, but I don't think my boyfriend would be happy". I laugh and wish her well. She is super smiley and into it.
3 - deflects, she ran off LOL
4 - deflects
5 - she said "sorry I've got an appointment" but she did legit stop and seemed like a cool chick, she was no flustered at all, good mental state on her
6 - she was very giggly, thanked me, and walked away (cute woman)
7 - She gets her head around it then just starts laughing, very cute.
8 - This woman was ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. Ask her name and she tells me she has to go. This is one of the most beautiful human beings I have seen in my life. She said she had to get to work so she had to go lol. Her cranialfacial development was incredible, such a stunning structure to the face
9 - she's busy but I warmly say no worries and she is very smiley, ugh so pretty, she was def older than me maybe 35/37 but truly a beautiful woman
10 - she is very anxious, she looks like she is stressed and under pressure, she is pacing about a bit. She responds in kind but she is a bit overwhelmed. I am adept enough to tell, and say "I can see you're busy, but I wish you a wonderful day" and she is relieved. She may be running late or have some issue to resolve. She was an American lady. London is super diverse and I approached today in the Clapham area which is a cool part of London legit 10 mins walk from my house. My location is banging.

ALL TIME PERSONAL BEST APPROACH VOLUME - 10 APPS IN 1 HR!!!!!!

Go to Whole Foods to reward myself and get some delicious treats, organic and healthy for MAC Daddy.

Then it starts raining and it's time for me to go home! On the walk home, one more approach, and she exchanges.

11 - open her and she is just SO cool, she's smiling and super into it, wow. She is pretty toom, tall, ugh....love it. She says she can't give her number to a stranger, but I say fine follow me on Instagram, and she says fine.

I'll push on IG using Andy's texting sequence.

Pancake was dropping some GEMS on myself and Colgate this morning about our areas for development, and laying our a vision for how we can breakthrough.

I was PUMPED and then shot a quick physique pic before I went to cold approach. The muscle is slowly building up and filling my clothes out and I can tell you, at this stage, every time I leave the house I do get women (and to be honest, men...) looking at me. I have improved my looks enough to get a girl when I put the pieces of the puzzle I am screwing up together.

Check it out. I was obese when I joined and had no muscle left. Look at me now. I am coming back now. Muscle is starting to come back. Fat is going down. This is my week off the gym, but still will do cardio 2 x, and do 2 40 hr fasts,

Shred off the final bit of fat and build an elite body. Super narrow waist, enormous fucking shoulders (I have had very very good delt development in the past at age 24). Overall bring in a brilliant physique, get a HT done, get tats/a sleeve. I will lock it off.

@Rags2Bitches reviewed audios and gave very very very fucking helpful feedback. There are BASIC ERRORS I make legit all the time and need to learn some fundamentals of attraction.

I'll get there.

There is always a solution.

In case you haven't noticed by now, with me, I typically grind and grind then get knocked back, eventually after getting knocked on my ass endlessly I then have a freakout. I then find a solution (bringing the best of my advisors in approach & connection building together) and go absolute savage mode. Thats what happened today. I always do this.....

MAC

Looking pretty damn epic mate. Never saw you look so good.
 
MakingAComeback here's a few solid cold approach videos I recommend on youtube. They are from Alex and his business partner Nitin from Playing with Fire. Andy did a collab with Alex so I am sure he would vouch the quality of the content.

Alex's stuff is pretty straightforward, its a "not too gamey" cold approach style I love. It works far better then rsd or todd v type of approaches in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feaoEKc17qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EvTPv9BuSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfW-WQb0G7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpNmjlq0H0k
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-1iSpitDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ruR2znrHMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlV2aMbhvA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RLP7_xFRxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0AbAOXU9A
 
THE PHOENIX PROJECT WEEK 17

TUE 15/03/2022

ACTIONS
(1) Dating: Cold Approach throughout the day (10 apps minimum) / Online Dating / Date 22 @ 7:30pm
(2) Body: Fasting / Core / Stretching
(3) Content: Shoot content with my influencer friend all day, just learn from him, learn more about how he thinks, brand building, etc.

He wants me developing a persona and characher for my Earthbound Mystic brand, like an interviewer character in a full costume, running around London with a mcrophone at night interviewing drunk girls on dating. I will hire a videographer and do this weekly, pay them for the night and shoot tonnes of content, and get it uploaded. I’ll grow, you’ll see.

Not gonna name drop my friend, ever, to make friends with this guy is truly an honour and I really like him a lot he’s my boy, but the dude is legit he was an Elon Musks birthday party not too long ago……

THE INVITE ONLY GROUP

So I have now removed reference to the group. It’ll be mentioned here, but I want to make it clear & transparent: the admins for this group are Pancakemouse and Colgate. We have advanced guys like Rags2Bitches in there too, and the absolute focus is on respecting these guys time. I am DEAD serious about that. No bullshit, no spam, and if these guys tell you to do something, you do no waste their time, respect them fully, and it must be absolute appreciated. TAKING ACTION is the focus, as is the overall vision for our community here and the precedent Radical drilled into us all.

They know from me I AM BEYOND FUCKING GRATEFUL for their help.

I shout them out every time I get a win, I mention them all the time, and when my brand gets built and this deep deep work ethic turns to biz, you’ll see interviews with these guys on my channel, collaborations, the guys who got me out of the gutter will one day understand how much it means to me…..

BTW, I took notes from Pancakemouse and Rags2Bitches following date 20 for 2 hours man, and turned it into audios I can listen to the gym, and went out and applied it immediately for hours and hours and hours. I spend hours on it.

I know in my heart I am not wasting their time and as such I can have the upmost grtitude for their help. They know how much I appreciate them and I have told them, and in a heart beat I would bend over backwards for them as I always do for my most trusted advisors.

Who am I going to give back to when I turn the same deep, deep work ethic to business / brand building? You know the deal. I am going to keep hammering and persisting because this is what it takes to suceed in life.

To get access to these guys I had to break myself off, truly, I have given up everything else in life apart from fucking grinding my literal face off to make something of myself, and along the way, people like The Bastard, Rags2Bitches and Pancakemouse gave me a hand out of the gutter.

To hopefully set the right tone and shape the vision for the group a bit here, it will be a journey to super advanced / elite for the most miniscule group of men, to be capped at 12, and we will go at it year after year, without mercy, until legendary status comes. Pancakemouse and Colgate have to want the guy on board and they will reach out to you. Invite only. Only a select few, and I mean a very select few, would be able to join. I think maybe only Pancake and Colgate should be able invite. Simpler that way, Occam’s razor. I invited Rags2Bitches because he would be welcome to be involved in anything I am working on without question, but he will be the only person I ever invite. That’s all from me now and I will only have myself set as an admin temporarily until the group stabilises then it’s over to Pancake and Colgate. They’ll figure it out.

The dynamics of how the group will work will unfold, but we’re taking instruction from Pancake and Rags2Bitches and applying it absolutely relentlessly for a minimum of 5hrs per day. That is how hardcore this is.

For privacy purposes we will not mention any of the means we are using, but I will make it clear: privacy will always be 100% protected, at all costs, and we will never share any personal info without consent. All audios / videos will be fully respectful of privacy and personal data and will be destroyed within 1 week.

I will offer some value tho:

HOW TO FIND EXCEPTIONAL ADVISORS & MENTORS

I will offer some value on how to get exceptional advisors and mentors, like I did many times, I got access to Pancakemouse, Rags2Bitches, and The Bastard by doing the following:

-Take MASSIVE and be one of the hardest working human beings on planet earth: I mean MASSIVE fucking action, day in, day out, week in, week out. I did it since the second I arrived at this community. Without any bullshit, any ‘time off’, any ‘not sure what I want anymore’ I drove myself into the ground and pushed myself through self doubt, low self esteem, trauma, and a FUCKED UP situation with nothing but grit, determination, and the total humility to admit I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THIS but I am willing to grind myself into a fucking fine powder to become successful.

Outcomes:
-Lost virginity
-Lost 52lbs
-Built muscle
-Developed style
-Looksmaxxed
-Date 22 tonight (this month had 5 dates in 1 week)
-Got official first lay
-Started content creation
-Moved to London
-Started cold approach, currently at 123 approaches
-Built a new network of the most exceptional men in self improvement
-Built a platform for potential greatness if I just don’t quit and KEEP FUCKING HAMMERING

Guys saw it. They saw some value in me. Because the effort was so, so, so serious (I apply every ounce of energy in my brain and body – trust me, I go to bed sometimes almost half dead thru hard work), help came.

One story I will tell you is this: I was grinding on the apps for months, daily, getting nowhere. This was going on for MONTHS dude. I would go out with my friend and do pictures, keep losing weight, and repeat the cycle. I was getting coaching and support and without that I would have been so so fucking lost dude. After several months, the results improved a little, but it was still very weak. Nonetheless, the help was there and I was learning. This was so unfamiliar for me man. I was on the apps, I shit you not, 3 fucking hours a day for MONTHS hammering to try to get a date and I got nothing bro.

Enter Rags2Bitches.

He overhauls my profile, spends his own free time editing my images, and within the hour my outcomes begin to improve.

A seed is planted in my mind – holy shit, what if I can….

I start to get some dates.

I then keep hammering, like a fucking nutcase, for several more months, HOURS A DAY.

Rags2Bitches steps in again after some extreme effort my end sustained for MONTHS dude. He then gives me a full, and I mean FULL breakdown of how to set up my profile, how to do a photoshoot, the props, the poses, the angles, where the photographer needs to focus, man the job lot. He edits the images in his own personal time. I also had been developed by Andy and Radical and though I was so fucking clueless things were beginning to solidify.

Any transformation you see in me will have been the effort of every guy you see me mention and the guys you see post in my log. All of them.

Within 1 day, I had a different life.

Never had any matches on Bumble before this, and I am getting 20 from boosts. Hinge leads are just going crazy and I am getting numbers day in day out.

It keeps stacking up and then it enables me to truly change myself at a deep level and ultimately come into contact with very deep things I am now working on.

Dates keep stacking up over and over. I WENT ON 5 IN ONE WEEK THS MONTH. There was a day I saw 2 girls in one day.

I have dates scheduled for every night this week, and by the weekend comes around, I may have more. I am going to my parents next week and I have dates scheduled there even tho it’s supposed to be my week off!

This is just the story of how Rags2Bitches jumped in and pulled me up.

I could tell you many stories like that about Radical, The Bastard, Andy, Pancakemouse.

These guys are the best in self improvement man. Really. They are the best.

There are so many fucking brilliant men I have behind me, it’s insane.

It is possible for a guy who is nothing to become something, and it is possible for that same exact guy to find the tribe of advisors and mentors, coaches and confidants they will need to climb the mountain to it’s absolute zenith.

Hard work, consistency, post DAILY, be humble, exude positivity for your brothers in arms, lift everyone up, help others even if you can’t help yourself, be there for others in dark times and never, ever let any man here suffer alone. Step in and walk besides them even if you are struggling yourself. I have done this many many times dude and I will do it until the wheels fall off.

Why they help me is I am clear: I am a humble man in this world who is fightng for his life, who is sacrificing everything and putting it all on black to have the opportunity to be successful, and is open that he needs help. I am a humble and down to earth person and just know two things: hard work and sacrificing. When someone helps me, I APPRECIATE IT.

That should be enough for just about anyone to find the exact right people they need to build an elite life and accomplish their goals.

I did this many times in my life, this is how I got access to a former Secretary of State for Defense who allowed me to volunteer for him and gave me a reccomendation that allowed me to go to a relatively elite Uni, this is how at said Uni I got mentoring from Sir Dominic Cadbury, head of a business dynasty in England.

I did it & you can too.

Just work your face off and life comes to you.

MAC
 
Thebastard said:
MakingAComeback said:
KILLING IT TODAY AND FEELING ON TOP OF THE WORLD

I left the unnamed one's chat, and after talking to Colgate and Pancakemouse, we started our own group for cold approach. The admins are colgate and Pancakemouse and their vision is a very very small group (capped at 12) which is invite only, only they can invite you. We even got access to the legend Rags2Bitches, another one of my most trusted advisors. These are the guys who got me where I am, getting dates all the time and even hammering cold approaches.

So debrief with Colgate and Pancake this morning, talked about diff concepts, and really got extremely fucking valuable insight and feedback.

I then went to cold approach. Legit my best session ever. All approaches recorded (disclaimer: personal use only and all privacy protected, audios for personal use only and will be destroyed within 24hrs).

Every approach I did, I checked in with the bros. AA was non existent. It felt like a game! Just FUN. Enjoyed my session.

We also riffed in the group

CA
1 - deflects
2 - opens, stands and chats, gorgeous girl and she is literally staring into my soul like she wants to fuck my brains out. Her eyes are flashing. Chat, ask for her number, "I would, but I don't think my boyfriend would be happy". I laugh and wish her well. She is super smiley and into it.
3 - deflects, she ran off LOL
4 - deflects
5 - she said "sorry I've got an appointment" but she did legit stop and seemed like a cool chick, she was no flustered at all, good mental state on her
6 - she was very giggly, thanked me, and walked away (cute woman)
7 - She gets her head around it then just starts laughing, very cute.
8 - This woman was ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. Ask her name and she tells me she has to go. This is one of the most beautiful human beings I have seen in my life. She said she had to get to work so she had to go lol. Her cranialfacial development was incredible, such a stunning structure to the face
9 - she's busy but I warmly say no worries and she is very smiley, ugh so pretty, she was def older than me maybe 35/37 but truly a beautiful woman
10 - she is very anxious, she looks like she is stressed and under pressure, she is pacing about a bit. She responds in kind but she is a bit overwhelmed. I am adept enough to tell, and say "I can see you're busy, but I wish you a wonderful day" and she is relieved. She may be running late or have some issue to resolve. She was an American lady. London is super diverse and I approached today in the Clapham area which is a cool part of London legit 10 mins walk from my house. My location is banging.

ALL TIME PERSONAL BEST APPROACH VOLUME - 10 APPS IN 1 HR!!!!!!

Go to Whole Foods to reward myself and get some delicious treats, organic and healthy for MAC Daddy.

Then it starts raining and it's time for me to go home! On the walk home, one more approach, and she exchanges.

11 - open her and she is just SO cool, she's smiling and super into it, wow. She is pretty toom, tall, ugh....love it. She says she can't give her number to a stranger, but I say fine follow me on Instagram, and she says fine.

I'll push on IG using Andy's texting sequence.

Pancake was dropping some GEMS on myself and Colgate this morning about our areas for development, and laying our a vision for how we can breakthrough.

I was PUMPED and then shot a quick physique pic before I went to cold approach. The muscle is slowly building up and filling my clothes out and I can tell you, at this stage, every time I leave the house I do get women (and to be honest, men...) looking at me. I have improved my looks enough to get a girl when I put the pieces of the puzzle I am screwing up together.

Check it out. I was obese when I joined and had no muscle left. Look at me now. I am coming back now. Muscle is starting to come back. Fat is going down. This is my week off the gym, but still will do cardio 2 x, and do 2 40 hr fasts,

Shred off the final bit of fat and build an elite body. Super narrow waist, enormous fucking shoulders (I have had very very good delt development in the past at age 24). Overall bring in a brilliant physique, get a HT done, get tats/a sleeve. I will lock it off.

@Rags2Bitches reviewed audios and gave very very very fucking helpful feedback. There are BASIC ERRORS I make legit all the time and need to learn some fundamentals of attraction.

I'll get there.

There is always a solution.

In case you haven't noticed by now, with me, I typically grind and grind then get knocked back, eventually after getting knocked on my ass endlessly I then have a freakout. I then find a solution (bringing the best of my advisors in approach & connection building together) and go absolute savage mode. Thats what happened today. I always do this.....

MAC

Looking pretty damn epic mate. Never saw you look so good.

countingsheep7878 said:
@MakingAComeback here's a few solid cold approach videos I recommend on youtube. They are from Alex and his business partner Nitin from Playing with Fire. Andy did a collab with Alex so I am sure he would vouch the quality of the content.

Alex's stuff is pretty straightforward, its a "not too gamey" cold approach style I love. It works far better then rsd or todd v type of approaches in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feaoEKc17qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EvTPv9BuSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfW-WQb0G7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpNmjlq0H0k
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-1iSpitDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ruR2znrHMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlV2aMbhvA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RLP7_xFRxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0AbAOXU9A

FUCK. Thank you bro!

You are giving a lot of value around here and we are attracting some fuckin solid dudes lately.

Yourself and Heisenberg are very very fucking welcome here and take it from me, we are VERY happy to have you onboard. THANK YOU for being here and for helping guys it is truly appreciated. That goes for yourself and Heisenberg.

MAC
 
Jacobpalmer123 said:
My guess your about 15-17 percent body fat. I see shoulder veins. I think the majority of your fat from this photo is in your stomach. Arms and legs and face look pretty trim.

Just remember when cutting the main goal is to A. cut fat and B. Hold onto muscle. Building muscle can happen but it's not the main focus. Once you hit a good body fat you can slowly gain weight and build muscle. I think your muscle is coming in but once again just focus on cutting bf.

Otherwise looks good so far.

Exactly the oversight I was looking for, thank you Big Jacob!!!!!!

I will heed your advice here. Will post proper update pics this month and tag you again. Thanks as ever bro.

Heisenberg said:
How can I get into the chat?
I haven't done a cold approach in 9 months or so and I'm totally rusty with a lot of AA.
But OLD is boring to me and I want to get back into daygame.

Great question bro, and I appreciate your help massively, so I will give an honest and direct answer. The kind of guys they're looking for would:

-Start a log here
-Post daily, take extreme action, set ambitious goals and go at them without mercy, relentlessly
-Be in the top 5% of action takers in self improvement
-Sustain this for many, many months, for as long as it takes

They will then personally discuss among each other, vet, and then one of them will reach out.

We are going to get to elite level, let it take years, we don't even care.

Want to be transparent: group is going to be dead focused and capped. Once they find their 12 men, that may be that, and us 12 will go to the moon over the years.

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Looking pretty damn epic mate. Never saw you look so good.
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Thebastard coming from you, you do not know how much that means. Thank you brother.

MAC
 
Great job on the fat loss, MAC! You look like a completely different person from your starting pics. You're getting really lean and if you keep hammering at it you'll have a great physique.

Excited to see you find more success and hit more "firsts" in this journey
 
MakingAComeback said:
To get access to these guys I had to break myself off, truly, I have given up everything else in life apart from fucking grinding my literal face off to make something of myself, and along the way, people like The Bastard, Rags2Bitches and Pancakemouse gave me a hand out of the gutter.
Yeah, people often think they need a lot of lessons or formal coaching up front before they take any action and that's like 0% true.

I've always ended up running into elite people wanting to help me because like you, I tend to naturally just go balls to the wall with anything I'm truly passionate about. You join some community of people doing that thing and the experienced mentors end up trickling down and come to you because you are just taking so much action.

The only weakness you and I both have is that we actually under-index on concepts/theory which would actually be helpful for us (as pancakemouse has said). But I think that's a better end of the spectrum than over-indexing on theory and taking no/little action. You end up running into people who have real experience and tell you the shit that matters if you just put yourself out there.
 
Check in:

Fasted! 40 hr fast man.....

Went to the station, did 2 approaches on my way. Got the train.

Went to meet my friend, shot content with him all day, endless actvity. All fasted.

Came home, brushed teeth. Went to date 22.

She's pretty and very lovely, but I cannot make myself get into it, I feel awkward, uncomfortable, and it does not flow. We are both not really into it. She starts going on her phone quite rudely, like she does text a bit early on in the date I assume telling someone it's going badly. I think she detected I was not able to get into it early on and was sensitive to this, triggered in some way.

Anyway - the date was a reminder of the importance of a game plan. I need to tighten mine up.

I am not sure anything would have happened with this girl. She did tell me she's bi, and was dating a dude for 2yrs she felt nothing for. She was just giving me a weird energy and today was not the day for that.

I take full ownership and it was a LEARNING OPPORTUNITY.

I will now go back and review Andy's dating guide. I will read the dating part twice today, and then twice tomorrow before date 23.

I need to tighten up a game plan, come up with an approach that will work, and will find a way to become more comfortable and able to connect.

Takes time like anything in life and in failure there is growth. First Attempt In Learning.

And I have a lot to learn.

Which is totally OK.

I could turn this around sooner than I think. Just going to read, consolidate effective practice, and make myself incrementally better over time.

We'll get there.

MAC
 
colgate said:
MakingAComeback said:
To get access to these guys I had to break myself off, truly, I have given up everything else in life apart from fucking grinding my literal face off to make something of myself, and along the way, people like The Bastard, Rags2Bitches and Pancakemouse gave me a hand out of the gutter.
Yeah, people often think they need a lot of lessons or formal coaching up front before they take any action and that's like 0% true.

I've always ended up running into elite people wanting to help me because like you, I tend to naturally just go balls to the wall with anything I'm truly passionate about. You join some community of people doing that thing and the experienced mentors end up trickling down and come to you because you are just taking so much action.

The only weakness you and I both have is that we actually under-index on concepts/theory which would actually be helpful for us (as pancakemouse has said). But I think that's a better end of the spectrum than over-indexing on theory and taking no/little action. You end up running into people who have real experience and tell you the shit that matters if you just put yourself out there.

Big time.

I think we do need to read, understand, process, and allow our brains to learn effective practice over time.

The theory should be internalised and allowed to support us in building attraction.

MAC
 
Quite tired so forgot to add:

After 1hr and 15mins, it was not going well, and I just wanted to end it.

I say "Look, I'll put you out of your misery, I can tell your not feeling my vibe" and she just kind of nods and says "yep". And I say "that's totally OK, I wasn't feeling it at all either" in a very sincere and reassuring tone.

"Yeah I could tell" she says

I was giving off vibes that suggest I wasnt into it, and I truly was not for some reason.

Maybe just one of those things.

We chat a bit more, and she says "shall we go". Yep.

It's very amicable and we wish each other the best. She did text and say thanks for meeting me etc. No worries.

This was civilised and pleasant.

It just highlights, I need to learn. And I will learn.

MAC
 
Damn man, I wish I had the balls to just say that flat out to a date. I always would make an excuse to leave, I'm too afraid of them reacting negatively. I just feel like women often don't take rejection well because they're not used to receiving it.
 
so MakingAComeback can you give some more details on what happened? Like were you not into her from the start? Or did you feel she wasn't into and you started rationalization not being into it?

If you weren't into it from the start, do you know what it was? Her look, her energy, her topics of conversation / interests? What happened in the first 15 minutes? What did you 2 talk about? What was the ratio between you and her in how much you were talking? Did you try asking anything sexual / exciting to build tension? How was your eye contact?

Because if you didn't want her then that is one thing but if you did then think about it critically (I know that's hard) and take something away from it to actually get better the next time.
 
countingsheep7878 said:
so @MakingAComeback can you give some more details on what happened? Like were you not into her from the start? Or did you feel she wasn't into and you started rationalization not being into it?

If you weren't into it from the start, do you know what it was? Her look, her energy, her topics of conversation / interests? What happened in the first 15 minutes? What did you 2 talk about? What was the ratio between you and her in how much you were talking? Did you try asking anything sexual / exciting to build tension? How was your eye contact?

Because if you didn't want her then that is one thing but if you did then think about it critically (I know that's hard) and take something away from it to actually get better the next time.

Honestly I was grinding like FUCK fastd for 40hrs ran around London shooting content all day with my boy.

I was low energy and didn't wanna be there.

Sat down and she was digging me the way she was looking at me was pretty hot......

But then I COULD NOT TURN IT ON.

Depleted state. Not good.

Today will rest more, increase kcal, regenerate.

Still approaching but only 1.5hrs and will do date 23.

Travelling to her, but will seed for 2nd date

MAC
 
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