Upstart's Progress Log - New 90 Day Goals

[Squilliam]

Still working my way towards a pro photoshoot one day. It would be dope to go with Dating Unchained, or Wingmen Plus. I just need to make the money for it.

Try AI. I've got some surprisingly good photos out of it, and it's much cheaper to do than a photoshoot.

 

[Upstart]

IS IT TIME TO GET COACHING?​

I was seriously considering it at work today.

It feels like I wasted a week taking ineffective photos that could've been resolved in a day with the right folks.
I could've spent that time writing and drawing my comics.

I feel like I'm reaching the limit of what I can do on my own. I try to tough it out and learn everything on the cheap, or for free, but I don't have any time left for that. I have to use money to leverage someone else's expertise to attack my problems FASTER.

Apparently, Andy's coaching is $11k.
$1000k upfront, the $500 every month after.
I can scrounge up 1k for a first month, but unless I can get coached in a way to make $500+ in income afterwards, I'm cooked.

It would be dope if I could take the coaching program, and make enough money to pay it back 10x using what I learn.

Still seriously considering it.

I say this because...

I changed my profile back to normal on Hinge and instantly got a hit -_-​

I only added the picture of me and my buddy, and changed the motorcycle photo using Facetune to go from
this ----------------------------------->>to this:

Not bad!

Like I said, I feel like I wasted a whole week, even though I learned a lot, I'm not trying to become an expert photographer or male model, I just want to get more matches and develop a dating life I'm proud of.

Looking at all the other coaching programs out there, I feel like this would be a natural fit. I've already talked to Andy once. Already familiar with his writings and Chris from GLL.

Fuck, these were the only two guys whose advice ACTUALLY got me LAID. As much as I love the RSD guys I never got laid using their advice.

That's honestly why I'm so active here, because this shit actually worked for me.
The moment I decided to take this stuff seriously 3 yrs ago, I only succeed because I kept myself accountable on this forum (with you guys helping me along the way).

How about it?
I can spend my 30s trying more stuff on my own, or pay to have an expert point to the way.
Either way, it's gonna cost me. But as I close in on 30, I realize that time is becoming more scarce than money.

Try AI. I've got some surprisingly good photos out of it, and it's much cheaper to do than a photoshoot.

Do you know an easy program to use & Did it give you better match results on your profile?
I found a good AI tutorial last week, but it was waay more complicated than just going to a spot and snapping a pic -_-

 

[Squilliam]

Do you know an easy program to use & Did it give you better match results on your profile?
I found a good AI tutorial last week, but it was waay more complicated than just going to a spot and snapping a pic -_-

I used Danny Won's tutorial. Probably the one you're referring to.

Mainstream AI apps don't produce good quality pictures.

Once you have it setup, it's not that much work. You just need to train the model and set up your workflow. Then as long as you have money for the graphics cards ($3/hour), you can generate 140 pics or so per hour.

$2 to setup the model, $3/hour for about 140 photos per hour. So you can get 140 photos for about $5. Which might lend you 1-2 usable photos.

You can use the photos you took recently as training pics.

Yeah, it's kind of a pain to setup, but it beats spending $500+ on a photoshoot, which will probably only yield you 2-3 usable photos at most.

Haven't noticed a huge difference in results yet but I'm only using one AI pic and my profile pics are already decently good, they're not easy to improve upon.

 

[Upstart]

I used Danny Won's tutorial. Probably the one you're referring to.

Yes it was the Danny Won tutorial. I was like fuuccck that lol.

 

[Upstart]

SHE SAID SHE SAW STARS​

When she came.
I’ll explain in a minute.

I saw the girl again for the first time in a couple weeks.
We were both hyped up and ready to go.

We went to Buddy’s Burger. She paid. It was a great burger.

While we ate, I told her “don’t be surprised if I attack you tonight.”
She looked me dead in the eyes. "It’s been two weeks. I'm expecting it."

Later we get to my room.
Usually, we watch something on tv before getting into it, slowly. But this time, we get straight to the make out.

She was actually on her period, but I didn’t mind. I was expecting a blood spray with each stroke, but it wasn’t like that at all. She was actually pretty dry, blood-wise. It was only noticeable on the used condom tbh.

We start in missionary. I pound her until she’s tired.
She gasps: “Can you tell how much I’ve missed you?” as she grips my dick with her pussy.

After she catches her breath from the first act, I move into part 2 where the sparks fly.

I learned this 5 step pussy massage technique from Sexual Quantum Leap and started by palming her pussy. She said; "I like how you grab my shyt like it’s yours."

"Heh."

I continue as the video instructed (which I watched earlier in the day).
I know fingering gives her a massive orgasm, but this time I was happy to tease it out a bit first with what I learned rather than mechanically go through the usual motions.

After a little bit more teasing, I insert my two fingers into her while paying close attention making eye contact.

I got to town.
I like seeing her squirt, but this time she didn’t.
She just got super wet, and just as my fingers got tired, she CAME.

HARD.

But the effect was delayed. There was no squirt, but a few seconds after the initial finish, she starts convulsing like last time, but this time it lasted longer and was more violent and loud as she moaned. I wasn’t even touching her at this point.

She went wild. I used to think that she had to squirt in order for it to count, but this was really powerful too.

After that, she couldn’t move and just laid on her back completely drained. I took advantage, and kissed her on the pussy, sucked on her titties and made fun of her:
“You can’t stop me now.”

She told me a little later that she was seeing STARS when her eyes were closed.​

I thought “WOW.”
I’d only see that if I was about to pass out or felt dizzy or something.
I’ve never felt that while jerking off though.

She said she needed water afterward, so we got some before continuing.

Then I had her suck my dick for a while, which she told me she wanted to do in a text. I just brought my dick up to her mouth and she got to work.




I used to be awkward with getting head, but I read a tutorial the day before about how a man should receive head. I gave her lots of sounds and moans, and reassurance. Telling her how well she’s doing.

I wanted her ass in my face while she was doing it. But she said “I’m bleeding!”
I put her ass in my face in the 69 position for 2 seconds, but she insisted “I’m bleeding!”

I took that as a sign to leave it. She was probably really self conscious about it, and I didn’t want her to feel uncomfortable while pleasuring me.

Next we tried doggy style, my current weak point.
We figured out a good position and it worked for a while until I went limp from lack of feeling. I get more turned on from making out tbh, but I want to get good at back-shots, so she showed me exactly how the motion should be positioned and we practiced that while I was limp for a bit.
Good tutorial.

Lastly I asked, “Where do you want me to finish?”​

“In my mouth.” she said without hesitation.

I said "Bet."
I was saving this nut for 2 weeks, I almost nutted the last two days before we met, edging myself to near completion, but I held on to it.

I jerked myself over her chest, but I was nervous about finishing all over her face.
She said "Don’t be scared, just don’t get it in my eyes."
I relaxed a bit, and kept jerking myself to the thought of her secretly being one of my fave pornstars which she resembled in complexion.

Her: "What are you thinking about?"
Me: "….....your ass."

You want me to turn around?

Sure.
Whew!

I get a short view of her ass before telling her to turn around again.

She says, "When you’re ready, just say 'Open up'"
That was really hot to me.

Right when I was about to blast, I said the magic words.

She put her whole mouth on my dick and sucked the SOUL out of me.
Swallowed every bit.
And kept going!

Now I understood all the memes about when you cum and the girl keeps sucking.
My dick was really sensitive after cumming to the point that her wet lips and tongue on it felt almost painfully good.

She said it tasted like the lotion I used to jerk myself with lol.

Afterward, I just sat on her chest and she said she enjoyed the view. I’m in pretty good shape lately.

For some reason, I felt PROUD that a girl actually swallowed my CUM.
I didn’t expect that feeling, but I’m glad to take note of it.


At the end, we cuddle and eat leftovers while watching Living Single. A very funny show actually.

Very good night, good sesh.

We’re going to Mueller Park next week.

 

[zekler]

SHE SAID SHE SAW STARS​

When she came.
I’ll explain in a minute.

I saw the girl again for the first time in a couple weeks.
We were both hyped up and ready to go.

We went to Buddy’s Burger. She paid. It was a great burger.

While we ate, I told her “don’t be surprised if I attack you tonight.”
She looked me dead in the eyes. "It’s been two weeks. I'm expecting it."

Later we get to my room.
Usually, we watch something on tv before getting into it, slowly. But this time, we get straight to the make out.

She was actually on her period, but I didn’t mind. I was expecting a blood spray with each stroke, but it wasn’t like that at all. She was actually pretty dry, blood-wise. It was only noticeable on the used condom tbh.

We start in missionary. I pound her until she’s tired.
She gasps: “Can you tell how much I’ve missed you?” as she grips my dick with her pussy.

After she catches her breath from the first act, I move into part 2 where the sparks fly.

I learned this 5 step pussy massage technique from Sexual Quantum Leap and started by palming her pussy. She said; "I like how you grab my shyt like it’s yours."

"Heh."

I continue as the video instructed (which I watched earlier in the day).
I know fingering gives her a massive orgasm, but this time I was happy to tease it out a bit first with what I learned rather than mechanically go through the usual motions.

After a little bit more teasing, I insert my two fingers into her while paying close attention making eye contact.

I got to town.
I like seeing her squirt, but this time she didn’t.
She just got super wet, and just as my fingers got tired, she CAME.

HARD.

But the effect was delayed. There was no squirt, but a few seconds after the initial finish, she starts convulsing like last time, but this time it lasted longer and was more violent and loud as she moaned. I wasn’t even touching her at this point.

She went wild. I used to think that she had to squirt in order for it to count, but this was really powerful too.

After that, she couldn’t move and just laid on her back completely drained. I took advantage, and kissed her on the pussy, sucked on her titties and made fun of her:
“You can’t stop me now.”

She told me a little later that she was seeing STARS when her eyes were closed.​

I thought “WOW.”
I’d only see that if I was about to pass out or felt dizzy or something.
I’ve never felt that while jerking off though.

She said she needed water afterward, so we got some before continuing.

Then I had her suck my dick for a while, which she told me she wanted to do in a text. I just brought my dick up to her mouth and she got to work.

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I used to be awkward with getting head, but I read a tutorial the day before about how a man should receive head. I gave her lots of sounds and moans, and reassurance. Telling her how well she’s doing.

I wanted her ass in my face while she was doing it. But she said “I’m bleeding!”
I put her ass in my face in the 69 position for 2 seconds, but she insisted “I’m bleeding!”

I took that as a sign to leave it. She was probably really self conscious about it, and I didn’t want her to feel uncomfortable while pleasuring me.

Next we tried doggy style, my current weak point.
We figured out a good position and it worked for a while until I went limp from lack of feeling. I get more turned on from making out tbh, but I want to get good at back-shots, so she showed me exactly how the motion should be positioned and we practiced that while I was limp for a bit.
Good tutorial.

Lastly I asked, “Where do you want me to finish?”​

“In my mouth.” she said without hesitation.

I said "Bet."
I was saving this nut for 2 weeks, I almost nutted the last two days before we met, edging myself to near completion, but I held on to it.

I jerked myself over her chest, but I was nervous about finishing all over her face.
She said "Don’t be scared, just don’t get it in my eyes."
I relaxed a bit, and kept jerking myself to the thought of her secretly being one of my fave pornstars which she resembled in complexion.

Her: "What are you thinking about?"
Me: "….....your ass."

You want me to turn around?

Sure.
Whew!

I get a short view of her ass before telling her to turn around again.

She says, "When you’re ready, just say 'Open up'"
That was really hot to me.

Right when I was about to blast, I said the magic words.

She put her whole mouth on my dick and sucked the SOUL out of me.
Swallowed every bit.
And kept going!

Now I understood all the memes about when you cum and the girl keeps sucking.
My dick was really sensitive after cumming to the point that her wet lips and tongue on it felt almost painfully good.

She said it tasted like the lotion I used to jerk myself with lol.

Afterward, I just sat on her chest and she said she enjoyed the view. I’m in pretty good shape lately.

For some reason, I felt PROUD that a girl actually swallowed my CUM.
I didn’t expect that feeling, but I’m glad to take note of it.


At the end, we cuddle and eat leftovers while watching Living Single. A very funny show actually.

Very good night, good sesh.

We’re going to Mueller Park next week.

cool, I’m more interested in how you sourced your girls current and otherwise and how you plan on sourcing more. Mostly from online? Or do you CA and if so where and what’s your method

 

[Upstart]

cool, I’m more interested in how you sourced your girls current and otherwise and how you plan on sourcing more. Mostly from online? Or do you CA and if so where and what’s your method

I get the most results from Hinge and BLK at the moment.

My photoset is basic as fuck, but it works well enough to get me a couple numbers every week, and a date every one to 2 weeks.



I set my age preference to max and my distance to 50 miles.
I dunno what CA means, but hope this helps!

 

[G.N]

CA

Cold Approach

 

[pancakemouse]

Or do you CA and if so where and what’s your method

Everyone: please stop using this acronym.

 

[Upstart]

SHOULD I PAY FOR BETTER DATING PHOTOS?​

I want to pay for better dating photos with DATING UNCHAINED.
He lives in Austin and from what I've seen, he gets the best results.
$2000 is steep, but I feel like I could also learn a lot to create a good instagram profile with the photos. I'll probably save up for it, but in the meantime, I just remembered I could take pics of myself for practice.

I'm getting an Iphone 16 soon, so my cam quality will go way up.
If I was able to take these on a Samsung Galaxy S8...

Taken in 2024



Taken last week.

..I should be able to take even better photos this summer.
These were the top 3 after THOUSANDS of shots. And the dog photo's not even that good lol.
Having the option to try new photo combos on the apps really helps.

I'm gonna start building out my personal instagram to optimize it for dating as well.

DATING UPDATE:​

I just got 2 numbers from the apps.
I STG this stuff comes in waves.
1-2 weeks dry then all of a sudden my phone's blown up.

I got 36 yr old single black (mixed?) mom on Tinder.​

Probably my first ever phone # from TINDER! Let's go!

She messaged me first.
I wasn't eager, but I said fuck it. Let's see where this goes.
She's highly interested, at least.

Then I got a 27 yr old on BLK.​

She's also interested an down to meet.

I'm gonna meet with my FwB tomorrow for dinner, then clap her cheeks all night.

 

[Adrizzle]

I'm getting an Iphone 16 soon, so my cam quality will go way up.

The quality of your photos is not an issue (resolution, sharpness etc). It’s the overall message of your photos that could be improved. Expression, style, hair, clothes, location etc.

An iPhone16 will not help with any of this. Joe will be able to help with all of this.

Heaps of improvement in just the overall story of your profile. You got two photos dressed up sitting, but the background of your suit photo doesn’t match. Did you get dressed to read a book in a park? Your new one looks cool but is this a lounge or bar? What are you doing there, having two drinks on the table would sell I’m having a drink with someone. Even that motorbike photo and I fucking love bikes. Man could be better, your bike looks like a rusty beater (which is fine) but if you took a two steps back you’d hardly see the rust on the bike. Shoot at a lookout or maybe a cafe in the background. Now that’s a story

I shopped out your mirrors on the bike. Doesn’t change the photo but now my eye isn’t drawn to the scratched up mirrors

 

[kratjeuh]

SHOULD I PAY FOR BETTER DATING PHOTOS?​

I want to pay for better dating photos with DATING UNCHAINED.
He lives in Austin and from what I've seen, he gets the best results.
$2000 is steep, but I feel like I could also learn a lot to create a good instagram profile with the photos. I'll probably save up for it, but in the meantime, I just remembered I could take pics of myself for practice

Cant decide for you if its worth it but ive seen his stuff and talked with him (he used to post here) and can say hes very good at what hes doing.

If you consider going to Europe to take your pics, I know an excellent dude who made my profile. Got 650+ likes when I started the profile and 8 months later I’m still rocking 350+ on Bumble for free without resetting (added pic for proof)

 

[Bman]

Joe is one of the best at what he does. He will help with crafting a story to your photos. You're likely to improved results in getting matches.

That said, it's not a silver bullet either. Learning to correctly market yourself to women is a skill. If you plan on continuing to live the playboy lifestyle, it's worth learning so you can shoot photos for yourself. The key is learning what your target customer wants.

So IF you do shoot with Joe, don't just spend your time shooting photos. Talk to him, learn how he thinks, study how he creates compelling images.

 

[Squilliam]

In my opinion, $2000 is not worth it.

I did have a shoot with Joe before when he was visiting my city, and I paid much less than that.

I personally didn’t think it was worth it. Granted, there were a few issues on my end that worsened the photo quality.

Having a pro photographer will help somewhat but it won’t fix your facial expression and body language issues. They can only do so much.

Keep in mind that you’ll probably have to do another one in the future. $2000 in my opinion is crazy steep for a photo shoot, especially if you don’t really have disposable income.

 

[Upstart]

New 90 Day GOALS Starting APRIL 1st to JULY 1st:​

- NO YOUTUBE
- NO TWITTER
- NO SOCIAL MEDIA ADDICTIONS.
Complete detox.

I will only use the internet for information lookup, work, and reference material.
(Watching the new season of Daredevil is allowed tho. So far it's not as subtle or nuanced as the Netflix series.)

I have been wasting too much time on Youtube shorts and Twitter scrolling lately. But neither have any tangible return on my time investment. I always have this sense of "I NEVER have time to do what I want" But that's because I've been misusing my time on Shorts as a rest spot for my mind, because of everything else I've got going on.

Other GOALS to fine tune:​

- Get finances under control.
- Pay Taxes
- Find a way to make more money per week

- Create my comic book and get PAID for it.

COLD APPROACH: 350 APPROACHES in 4 months (DOABLE?)​

- 350 APPROACHES (Day and Night game) Between now and August 1st.
So far, I only have 50+ true approaches under my belt. But my dating level is capped until I upgrade my online dating profiles with better photos.

- I want to try Kratom as an alternative to alcohol during night game.

- Finish reading "Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss.

REFINE MY ONLINE IMAGE:​

- Taking better photos for instagram and the apps.
I really want to curate my personal instagram so I don't feel nervous to give it out to girls.
These are my two accounts currently: one for my art business, and my personal one, which is currently dukey
@comiken
@kensidinanya

- Read @Bman's long ass article about archetypes.
- See if I can save up for a photoshoot with Joe.

- Otherwise, I'll be focusing on trying to tell more of a story with my pics.

DATING UPDATE: I found an old high school classmate on HINGE.​

- The single mom (36) was high interest at first, then dropped off. I've seen this before. I'll try once more before I drop it.
- The other girl I called and set up a date on Thursday.

- One girl from 2 weeks ago responded to my last feeler text and said just came back from Hawaii. I jokingly said I just came back from Hell. We texted a bit back and forth and she said she was free this week. I told her to come meet me tomorrow. No response yet.

- And LAST, but MOST IMPORTANT. I found and old high school girl I used to know on Hinge. Very high interest. Already given me her number. Excited to see where this goes.

The quality of your photos is not an issue (resolution, sharpness etc). It’s the overall message of your photos that could be improved. Expression, style, hair, clothes, location etc.

Shot on iPhone 16 Selfie camera.

I think these came out pretty good. But both you and @Zug mention it doesn't make a difference and I'm seeing that now. When I look at my profile pics they still don't tell much of a coherent story, especially the way you explain it lol. I'll be working on that more this summer.

Thanks for shopping out the mirrors!

If you consider going to Europe to take your pics, I know an excellent dude who made my profile. Got 650+ likes when I started the profile and 8 months later I’m still rocking 350+ on Bumble for free without resetting (added pic for proof)

That is excellent, man! I'll keep this in mind.

So IF you do shoot with Joe, don't just spend your time shooting photos. Talk to him, learn how he thinks, study how he creates compelling images.

I'll probably aim for that when working with him. I know it'll be worth it when I have more disposable income.

Keep in mind that you’ll probably have to do another one in the future.

That is a good point. I'll probably hold off for now, study his work, and shoot as well as I can on my own.


Thanks for all your feedback guys!

 

[Squilliam]

COLD APPROACH: 350 APPROACHES in 4 months (DOABLE?)​

- 350 APPROACHES (Day and Night game) Between now and August 1st.
So far, I only have 50+ true approaches under my belt. But my dating level is capped until I upgrade my online dating profiles with better photos.

- I want to try Kratom as an alternative to alcohol during night game.

- Finish reading "Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss.

It's about 22 approaches a week. Which is definitely feasible, as long as you have enough volume wherever you live.

In my city I can easily find 40+ sets a week, but I live in a super dense city with tons of volume. In smaller cities this is a much harder task.

Also, as far as a game resource goes, I don't recommend "The Game". It's more entertainment than educational IMO.

And my experience is, as a beginner, the quality difference between online and daygame is not that large. I would say my average daygame date is hotter, but you actually have to get good at it before you can pull hot chicks.

 

[Upstart]

IT TOOK 32 Days to SET UP THIS DATE:​

This would be my 6th new girl since I started in January.
She was about 2 pts higher than the current girl I'm seeing, much more fit body.
We matched on March 1st on FACEBOOK Dating and were texting on and off until March 4. Then I called her, but she was busy at the time.

In the meantime, I smash my current FWB the entire time.

She finally texts back on March 20th. Apparently she was in Hawaii.
We text throughout the week until today. Since then I've learned to be more commanding in my texts, avoiding questions, and "LMKs (let me know if)" She said she was free, I told her to meet me at a spot at 6:00.
No response. I got off work and reengaged.

We talked on the phone, and apparently her car got hit earlier in the day and she'd been printing fliers to find the culprit.
I thought it was an elaborate flake PLUS she said she was leaving for Dallas on Sunday to return April 28TH!!!.

So I pushed one more time for today and she agreed to a time a little later in the evening.

THE DATE​

...went well! We were talking and vibing effortlessly. I made her laugh a lot, because I wasn't nervous at ALL. I had so much confidence from dealing with the other girl that I had way less nerves than usual.

We had ice cream. Then talked for a long while as we walked around the park.
After driving her back to her car, I said "lemme give you something to remember me by."
She said" oh yeah, what's that?"

I say nothing and smiled.
My arm around her waist, (the placement of my arm I learned long ago from an indian girl I kinda slept with.)
She does something I've heard of in the guides but never seen so vividly

She looks at me, then at my lips, at me , then my lips, at me. Rapidly.
Then pulls in my head for a kiss.

4 quick smooches then we separate.

Me: Nice.
Her: You're so funny, and cute.

I seat her in her car before walking back to mine.

I actually broke my no kiss rule I learned online, but I liked her vibe, and she was going away for a long time, so I went for it. The vibe was just right.

And not to mention it took a month of patience to set this up. Not that I was waiting on her text, but my persistence paid off. Luckily I had company (FWB) in the meantime.

I have a date tomorrow with another girl from the apps. Let's see how that goes.