Ravi, Year 3: Self-Improvement Log - Data-Driven, Incremental Growth [HAPPY NEW YEAR]

[Ravi]

Day Gaming daily & using the apps.

I did notice, I am doing A LOT worse on the apps and in the streets compared to last year.

A warning to the guys over 30 - we do age, and we lose points every year.

Approaching is tough anyway, and made more difficult by declining SMV!

My advice? If you're aging, START NOW! Each year of self-improvement, my dating pool got smaller, the women more difficult and less invested, and the market is not looking to improve any time soon.

Do not delay - I started at 30 and that in my opinion was too late, given I didn't have the looks & base SMV.

There is only so much this stuff can help you if your looks truly do not fit the mould. Before 30, you have a lot of leeway and can get away with a lot. After that, it's a game of contracting circles. It gets quite tight.....!

EDIT:

For context, I'm approaching daily, out and about a lot, and I am seeing a slightly different world to the one I was in last year. Approaching for 3 years now, I learned a bunch, and you process and deal with where you stack up, and accept it. I humbled myself a long time ago and understood my base value was too low to get any success from approaching women, so I use it as social skills and vibe development. Chatting to them, you know when there is some attraction, and when there isn't. I remember the year I was in Budapest, the daily approaches, the 1000+ sets done, there was genuinely no attraction and nothing I could even do (brown death). It was like talking to a brick wall basically.

UK I gave up entirely and stopped trying. That market was done years ago. Europe, I was told was better, if you read earlier in this thread, the guys insisted that (most of those guys were clueless higher SMV guys, I now know.)

Latin America, well Mexico at least, I banged a bunch of chicks but they were absolutely dire quality (3s, 4s). Match quality was in literal hell there.

My sense from looking at the data, is the same poor product market fitment applies here in this part of the world.

Realistically I don't even know where I can do at this stage lol.

I guess the general idea that when you keep moving you eventually find somewhere good, was a crock of shit. Annoying. Pisses me off how many things I was told which were untrue.

I am glad to have this forum, to help the next generation save time...........So many absolute bullshitting scum out there, and it truly gets to me. To affirm their own egos and their identity, they will mislead others, give them false hope and get them investing years of their life for nothing.

My work on this forum is my attempt to fight back.

-MAC

 

[Ravi]

WED 04/09/2024

(1) Money:
-Coaching Delivery
-Biz Admin
-Coaching Calls: 5 Hours (One on one w/ my private clients)

(2) Muscles:
-Keto
-Rest day

(3) Mindset:
-Day Game: 20 Sets
-Online Dating

Notes:

Time to focus, and get shit done.

Distractions and notivations about to go off and then to hustle mode.

Have a good day boyos.

-MAC

 

[Crisis_Overcomer]

Day Gaming daily & using the apps.

I did notice, I am doing A LOT worse on the apps and in the streets compared to last year.

A warning to the guys over 30 - we do age, and we lose points every year.

Approaching is tough anyway, and made more difficult by declining SMV!

My advice? If you're aging, START NOW! Each year of self-improvement, my dating pool got smaller, the women more difficult and less invested, and the market is not looking to improve any time soon.

Do not delay - I started at 30 and that in my opinion was too late, given I didn't have the looks & base SMV.

There is only so much this stuff can help you if your looks truly do not fit the mould. Before 30, you have a lot of leeway and can get away with a lot. After that, it's a game of contracting circles. It gets quite tight.....!

EDIT:

For context, I'm approaching daily, out and about a lot, and I am seeing a slightly different world to the one I was in last year. Approaching for 3 years now, I learned a bunch, and you process and deal with where you stack up, and accept it. I humbled myself a long time ago and understood my base value was too low to get any success from approaching women, so I use it as social skills and vibe development. Chatting to them, you know when there is some attraction, and when there isn't. I remember the year I was in Budapest, the daily approaches, the 1000+ sets done, there was genuinely no attraction and nothing I could even do (brown death). It was like talking to a brick wall basically.

UK I gave up entirely and stopped trying. That market was done years ago. Europe, I was told was better, if you read earlier in this thread, the guys insisted that (most of those guys were clueless higher SMV guys, I now know.)

Latin America, well Mexico at least, I banged a bunch of chicks but they were absolutely dire quality (3s, 4s). Match quality was in literal hell there.

My sense from looking at the data, is the same poor product market fitment applies here in this part of the world.

Realistically I don't even know where I can do at this stage lol.

I guess the general idea that when you keep moving you eventually find somewhere good, was a crock of shit. Annoying. Pisses me off how many things I was told which were untrue.

I am glad to have this forum, to help the next generation save time...........So many absolute bullshitting scum out there, and it truly gets to me. To affirm their own egos and their identity, they will mislead others, give them false hope and get them investing years of their life for nothing.

My work on this forum is my attempt to fight back.

-MAC

philippines bro

 

[Thrice]

Man we have a similar story and often same problems, the aging thing hit me hard lately too. Can you record some of your approaches? even just with the phone, I would like to listen to it to better understand whats going on


will ad that I also think you're in a position for hardcore lookmaxing Mac, sorry but natural weight lifting is not gonna cut it. We will never get an attractive physique natural in our 30's. Do the math, take what you've built now and try to estimate how much longer would you have to train to get big and ripped...years and years. Like 10 years or more. Now add to that the fact that you'll be able to build less muscle every year.

If you want to become like Tushar you'll need aas. it's not easy for me to say this. But in this forum we are all doing non-conventional fucked up things anyway. You might regret later not going hardcore with the looksmaxing today.

If my face wasn't enough I would be on 700mg test now not 100mg

 

[Ravi]

Man we have a similar story and often same problems, the aging thing hit me hard lately too. Can you record some of your approaches? even just with the phone, I would like to listen to it to better understand whats going on


will ad that I also think you're in a position for hardcore lookmaxing Mac, sorry but natural weight lifting is not gonna cut it. We will never get an attractive physique natural in our 30's. Do the math, take what you've built now and try to estimate how much longer would you have to train to get big and ripped...years and years. Like 10 years or more. Now add to that the fact that you'll be able to build less muscle every year.

If you want to become like Tushar you'll need aas. it's not easy for me to say this. But in this forum we are all doing non-conventional fucked up things anyway. You might regret later not going hardcore with the looksmaxing today.

If my face wasn't enough I would be on 700mg test now not 100mg

Completely fucking agree

I am gonna roid maxx man

Next year we gonna do it

It will kill my hair transplant tho

 

[Ravi]

Wed 4th





Day game with CWF, Jason, Ray before (and after) cuck date, Lean





1 chatted a little but lacked presence and couldn’t stop her (warmup


2 very, nice chatted, the lady was just hella nice as a person


3 Jason’s sister, again she was super nice, but bf cucked, battled it, teased her for dating a guy off the apps, wouldn’t cave, lol. She enjoyed the validation. But no attraction.


4 my sister, battled her to a stop, she was super fucking hot but she wouldn’t comply she just took the compliment and said I’m going home but set was better because I made her stop and battled successfully. She was a fob so she listened to me but no frame really. Which is a shame. Browns are my worst market right now but the FOB browns do seem to atleast listen.


5 Ukranian fob, exchanged, but this chick didn’t speak English and we had to communicate using google translate! CUCK


6 got into set, bf objection


7 my sister, she was scared and ran - I suspect a non fob brown so just a bitch who prolly white washed


8 hot Turkish, exchanged, gonna work her over text tomorrow (she replied to feeler). Why was this number the first that replied to the feeler? I wasn’t a fucking bitch. I pulled her around, showed a lot of strength to literally keep her where I wanted her, she was vibing so I took her by the hand. The basic idea here - as Dante would say, the most powerful tool we have is emotions, and using our masculinity to stimulate emotions. Being assertive and showing intent, leading, this was done at a basic level in this set.





Notes:





Best session yet.





Blowing past my rust.





My volume is still too low but it’s improving. One number lead to a feeler reply so that’s good.





I’m stopping lots of sets, I’m not actually getting that many blowouts.





My struggle is getting attraction, however, after Dante coaching on the weekend, I learned a great insight about a major sticking point I’ve had for the past year. My inset persona being incongruent.





I adjusted that a little each day and it helped me today get a better experience. I was able to stay in set way longer, and the women actually were pretty glad to talk. However, this lacks masculinity and presence still.





No need to be down on myself, important to use the correct self talk, language, and encouragement.





For many of us on this journey it’s gonna be a long road man, the way I see it, I just want to be a masculine and grounded man. I basically just want to solve my problems of being a beta in the past and a weak broken cuck. So I will remain in the streets for as many years as it takes to solve that. Because I have found you have no choice. Nothing else worked for me.





REFLECTION





What I did well: vibe was better, and I was able to be more authentic and come from my core, as well as relax more


What I could have done better: volume is low here, but improving! You need to do 20 sets a day to get better. I am increasing it by the day, and am doing a good job!


Key thing I learned today: when a set is hooking escalate and be a fucking man, take risks, take a shot, and fucking make her feel. It’s pointless to take cuck numbers, they go nowhere. Show some real strength and stand out. Or be mogged.

 

[Ravi]

Thursday 05/09/2024

Actions
(1) Business:
-Block 1: Coaching Delivery
-Block 2: Selfless Service – Free Calls x 2
-Block 3: Content
-Block 4: Business Development

(2) Body:
-Keto
-Rest day

(3) Mindset:
-Day Game: Increase volume to atleast 15 sets.
-Online Dating: Message leads
-Self Reflection: At the end of the day, sit in the park and actually deeply contemplate how I can become better, what I could do differently, and how I can get 0.01% better tomorrow.

Others:
-Haircut
-Fashion: Buy ripped jeans, white air forces, and a better black tee. I looklike a FOB in my current outfit. Not good.

 

[Ravi]

That day game set the other day, responded and texted, I would say she is an 8 brown girl, super attractive. However, I am gonna ghost her. Reason being, she is a female dating coach, with a significant social media following of 200k fans, and her reels of her talking about dating and dates she has been on, get over 2 million views.

I am a man trying to build a business and serve people. I cannot have reels about me showing me in a bad light. I chose to live my life in service of others and be a leader so I can't take risks of this sort.

It felt good that she replied though.

Online wise, cucked. Me and Carl swipe together, daily. We aim for 500 profiles liked on Hinge, Tinder, Bumble, and Feeld.

I get ONE match a day, if I'm lucky, he get's about 20-30.

White passing Arab vs Brown-Brown SMV.

IMO, the market has gotten far worse for low SMV men. Last year, I would get lots of matches and girls actually wanted to chat to me in the streets. Now I have to battle my absolute ass off to get even a basic convo in the streets and online is dead, buried, and gone. MOGGED!

I want to be brutally honest about all of this.

I took this year "off" dating until now. And getting back to it, after just closing Yes Girls in Mexico (which is no growth at all), I can actually feel how much my value declined in that year.

The market, is polarising, and gets better for the higher SMV guys, and worse for the lower end male in looks.

Judging by all of this data, I think it's over online to be honest.

Think the only way I am gonna be able to get something worthwhile will be through day game, which is gonna be a tough task, and I'm gonna have to move to a major city and go back on the daily hustle again......

Hmmm. Will gather more data and see if I can make something happen.

While I do believe in self-improvement in general, I think some truth-telling is in order. It's evident that self-improvement, in and of itself, won't get the low SMV male there. Outcomes will remain poor with all the gym and cosmetic work in the world. Frankly, I think my archetype and product is one too niche to sell.

From the way it looks, it seems like the only way I am gonna pull this off is actual seduction and game. Convincing women to see value in me.

Jeez.

Once these subscriptions lapse online, I won't renew. I have banged 30+ women from online dating apps. Most of them, mid. 4-5 were experiences I actually enjoyed. 2 were fucking incredible experiences.

They did, however, mostly ghost.

So, this just ain't it.

Fuck me, talk about a warm welcome back to the game.

Well. it is what it is.

Time to just work that much harder.

-MAC

 

[Ravi]

FRIDAY:06/09/2024

(1)Business:
-Block 1: Coaching
-Block 2: Service
-Block 3:Content
-Block 4: Biz Development

(2)Body:
-Keto
-Rest day

(3) Mindset:
-Day Game: 15 Sets
-Reflecting, Thinking: 30m
-Writing FR
-Online Dating: 500Hinge, Tinder, Bumble, Feeld. Run boost on Tinder + Bumble.
-Online dating: Set up date with lead from Hinge, for Sat.

-MAC

 

[Lord Rey]

philippines bro

I mean, I don't know if you're really serious or not, but even if I'm not totally a fan of Filipinas (mainly because of a past toxic relationship), I think that the Philippines is still worth a shot for Ravi.

@MakingAComeback As far as I'm aware, you never tried the Philippines, did you? Have you considered taking a couple of weeks of vacation in the Philippines just to check how dating is going over there for you? It's a totally different marketplace and maybe/hopefully you can have better success than in Europe or America.

It's painful to read your struggle and see than even after all your goodwill and work put in, you don't get the results expected/deserved. Truly, I don't understand how you can't get anything going well with girls despite all your efforts. To be totally honest, even if maybe you had a vibe issue a couple of years ago when we first met in person, I still couldn't understand (even back then) why you couldn't get any quality girl, as you already had good looks, good pics, and dared to cold approach girls, again and again and again, even if most sets where unfruitful. While me, at this time, I wouldn't dare to make just one single approach because of my titanic AA.

Then you improved a lot, on all levels, and you got your own business going on, but you still don't get any success with girls!? To me it just doesn't make any sense, but then I understand that we're really different on many levels and not just about the looks. It's just that I think that you're already a high value man and that a lot of girls should be into you... I just don't understand why it's not the case...

I guess I'm still really clueless on some dating related stuff. Then, I know that there is the skin color/ethnicity question that can have a lot of influence on the dating experience of a man. I don't want to troll in this post, but it's funny to me that most girls in the West call themselves "liberal" or "progressist" but don't want to date certain ethnicities!? Let me have a big laugh, as I'm a big far right wing guy, and yet I'm not a racist and I don't judge people on their skin color, and I totally want to date girls from all ethnicities if they're attractive enough to me (still have no luck with black girls tho).

Anyways, the point of this post is just to express how confused I feel about your lack of success, and to encourage you to explore other SMPs to see if you can get a better experience elsewhere. I'm totally a Geopilled guy and I believe that location and logistics are absolute kings, in war like in dating.

 

[Ravi]

I mean, I don't know if you're really serious or not, but even if I'm not totally a fan of Filipinas (mainly because of a past toxic relationship), I think that the Philippines is still worth a shot for Ravi.

@MakingAComeback As far as I'm aware, you never tried the Philippines, did you? Have you considered taking a couple of weeks of vacation in the Philippines just to check how dating is going over there for you? It's a totally different marketplace and maybe/hopefully you can have better success than in Europe or America.

It's painful to read your struggle and see than even after all your goodwill and work put in, you don't get the results expected/deserved. Truly, I don't understand how you can't get anything going well with girls despite all your efforts. To be totally honest, even if maybe you had a vibe issue a couple of years ago when we first met in person, I still couldn't understand (even back then) why you couldn't get any quality girl, as you already had good looks, good pics, and dared to cold approach girls, again and again and again, even if most sets where unfruitful. While me, at this time, I wouldn't dare to make just one single approach because of my titanic AA.

Then you improved a lot, on all levels, and you got your own business going on, but you still don't get any success with girls!? To me it just doesn't make any sense, but then I understand that we're really different on many levels and not just about the looks. It's just that I think that you're already a high value man and that a lot of girls should be into you... I just don't understand why it's not the case...

I guess I'm still really clueless on some dating related stuff. Then, I know that there is the skin color/ethnicity question that can have a lot of influence on the dating experience of a man. I don't want to troll in this post, but it's funny to me that most girls in the West call themselves "liberal" or "progressist" but don't want to date certain ethnicities!? Let me have a big laugh, as I'm a big far right wing guy, and yet I'm not a racist and I don't judge people on their skin color, and I totally want to date girls from all ethnicities if they're attractive enough to me (still have no luck with black girls tho).

Anyways, the point of this post is just to express how confused I feel about your lack of success, and to encourage you to explore other SMPs to see if you can get a better experience elsewhere. I'm totally a Geopilled guy and I believe that location and logistics are absolute kings, in war like in dating.

So bro, it's a nuanced one.

I've always struggled with online. Done several photoshoots but just didn't really get there. I don't have the most attractive face so it's not going to be easy online, in my opinion!

I've had 200+ dates, and have banged. But didn't find the relationship I am actually looking for.

Not even close.

I am at peace with my online outcomes. My product is just too niche for online and doesn't appeal to the female gaze. I get outcomes via law of large numbers. I have an archetype, that isn't desirable, and also a unattractive face. I've been unable to find a way to make it work online - tried a lot.

I don't feel any negative emotions about it, because it's not me - it's just low SMV.

Day game, gives guys like me a punchers chance. I've been able to exchange with quality chicks who were open to giving me a shot in the past. And it will happen again.

I would say, I am not struggling in my dating life anymore.

Because I have let go of it and have banged enough and been seasoned enough in this arena, by doing the work, and accepting a lot.

I just don't have the same naive illusions I once did. This is kinda the reality of low SMV. You do the work, and do what you can. Best hope to compensate, is Game.

Strategically re-aligning, giving up with online dating (what purpose does it serve now, bang more 5s?), and moving my life to be able to just work on approaching for 2 years or so.

I have to figure it out.

-MAC

 

[Ravi]

I guess I'm still really clueless on some dating related stuff. Then, I know that there is the skin color/ethnicity question that can have a lot of influence on the dating experience of a man. I don't want to troll in this post, but it's funny to me that most girls in the West call themselves "liberal" or "progressist" but don't want to date certain ethnicities!? Let me have a big laugh, as I'm a big far right wing guy, and yet I'm not a racist and I don't judge people on their skin color, and I totally want to date girls from all ethnicities if they're attractive enough to me (still have no luck with black girls tho).

Yeah man it's such a joke. Like my worst performing market is with brown girls!

SMV is a scale and you can as an individual, overcome if if you're a VERY ATTRACTIVE minority, so there's handsome browns like my brother who are Italian passing and hence do well.

And there's true currycel Brown-Browns like your boy, I've tried a lot of different styles and self-improvement but you just get lumped in psychologically as a low value Indian person lol.

Truth is, women just aren't able to open their mind to see a brown dude as an attractive option, so you need to use Game to slap them and show them, I have substance, I have good qualities, and you can use this to stimulate her emotions in the moment and make something happen.

That's about all you can do!

I approach daily, with white guys, Asian guys.

They get insane levels of reception and frame.

And you have me, absolutely battling to get something out of these chicks. With ZERO initial frame, but I am able to create a little bit of attraction, which lets me do something.

All of this is to say, yes, it's ridiculous that women want to talk about being liberal and open minded, but in the actual real world, they are purely hypergamous and just looking to bag themselves a top draw dude, and her perception of this is 95% social conditioning I would say.

That's why white guys, black guys, can be absolute bums in life and losers, and still SLAY.

See it literally every day.

This is how it works, and when people don't tell you the truth, and tell you to just be yourself and be authentic and real, you're done and dusted as a low SMV dude.

What those other men don't realise, is that their basic Just Exist ass, is able to just get a pass due to halo effect. Dudes like myself have a negative halo and need to just get used to having to battle and fight.

I was questioning all of this during my healing stage in Mexico, and thought maybe if I heal more, I'll have frame and dating will improve.

No LOL

You literally have to hustle game if you're low SMV

So back to the streets for my brown ass ;-)

-MAC

 

[Ravi]

Friday 06/09/2024

Day Game:

1. Was super weird about giving her name, was telling me she's notinterested in talking, weird set.
2. She chatted a little, butreally confused me with some things she was saying which were not relevant to the convo
3. Chatted but was walking super fast andrefused to stop or slow down~
4. Blowout
5. Total lack ofpresence and sexuality, like talking to stone
6. This woman was atotal piece of crap. She pretended to chat and play along but then began fucking with me, talking over me, and then flipped outentirely. Complete psycho.
7. Stopped a little, but barelyinterested or conscious, barely processing what I said, then just walked on
8. Exact same thing as above, barely conscious orlistening, just looking through me while kinda following the convo
9.Said she's in a rush and powered on
10. Stopped kinda but notlistening, paying any attention, focused on getting away, and not taking in anything being said. Like talking to stone.

Notes:

What Idid well: They're stopping.
What I could do better: There is absolutely nothing happening in any of these sets. There is literally zero interest or receptivity for one. I am not new to getting zeroframe (I basically never do). But the frustrating thing is, you're like talking to ghosts, there is nothing there and it just ebbs into nothing within about 10-15 seconds.
What I will improve next time: Tonality and reducing hand gestures.

 

[Lord Rey]

I approach daily, with white guys, Asian guys.

They get insane levels of reception and frame.

And you have me, absolutely battling to get something out of these chicks. With ZERO initial frame, but I am able to create a little bit of attraction, which lets me do something.

All of this is to say, yes, it's ridiculous that women want to talk about being liberal and open minded, but in the actual real world, they are purely hypergamous and just looking to bag themselves a top draw dude, and her perception of this is 95% social conditioning I would say.

Yeah, that's absolutely crazy. Before meeting you, I've never thought that being Indian would be such a big drawback dating wise. Girls are really harsh with their selection and preferences... Even though I enjoy the irony that I'm actually more open minded than those libtard girls who think they're morally superior to me with all their bullshit virtue signaling...

Anyways, you still avoided my main question which was why you're not considering trying to date in the Philippines, or any other SMP you haven't tried yet?

You always talk about being too niche for the marketplaces you tried so far, so why not explore further? It shouldn’t be a problem for you as you’re location independent. Or did I miss something?

 

[Ravi]

Day Game:

Best session yet.

Shadowed Carl's session with Dante. His inner game work, directly supported his DG. He had a massive breakthrough.

Did my own Dante coaching session. He was happy with everything, good stops, very strong, sets were man to woman.

Two women, gave me HUGE fucking levels of frame. An Asian girl, who was freakin stunning (8) and a black chick who was also super hot (8).

The black chick, I instadated, took by the hands, and just walked her to a coffee shop.

We did a date, but she cucked me, and bounced after giving a fake number.

Standard procedure. Gotta work on the learnings. Will write FR. Gotta go to bed now after 8hrs of fuckin day game.

My market and reception with blacks and Asians, is pretty fuckin decent in NYC. MIND BLOWN.

My market with browns, is literally non existent, my sisters literally do not give me the light of day. Market with whites and latinas also in absolute death but that always been the case.

Def. gonna lean into approaching a lot more Asians and blacks.

-MAC

 

[Ravi]

Got laid by an ultra yes girl off Feeld

Banged until 230

She was absolutely insane and clearly screwed in the head

To give you an indicator, this was her texting the past few days, and she invited me over last night

 

[Terraqua]

She was absolutely insane and clearly screwed in the head

To give you an indicator, this was her texting the past few days, and she invited me over last night

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That chain of messages is actually crazy as fuck. I just can't get my head around how insane some individuals are and I don't mean that in an insulting way. It's really cool but it's cool in the same way as a lion in a zoo behind a 4-inch glass wall and not in nature where it's gonna fucking maul you to death.​

 

[Ravi]

That chain of messages is actually crazy as fuck. I just can't get my head around how insane some individuals are and I don't mean that in an insulting way. It's really cool but it's cool in the same way as a lion in a zoo behind a 4-inch glass wall and not in nature where it's gonna fucking maul you to death.​

Dude it was fucked up man

She got my number off feeld and was sending me texts like that and videos of her masturbating all god damn day

She then began calling me demanding to come over and fuck

This chick had mental illness, nymphomania, and no self awareness

The sex itself was OK. I banged her for 2 hours and destroyed her.

Within literally 15 seconds of finishing she was 15/10 horny again and began demanding ‘I need to bounce on your cock again it feels so good’ and basically threw a temper tantrum

I was disturbed but I fortunately understand frame control so was able to get her under control

A year or two ago I probably would have caved and basically been raped lol

Banged until 230 tried to get some sleep and the nut case woke me up at 4am by sucking my dick and begging to be fucked again next thing she’s riding me

I felt weird and slight regret…..

I fortunately had my alarm set early as fuck and left claiming I have to go to a business meeting. Which I do often have on weekends with my biz partner.

Got that subway back to Manhattan and crashed at carls. And should be going out to day game with pancake later.

Fucking weird experience.

Hopefully my next close is more normal lol

 

[Ravi]

Was good to see @pancakemouse yesterday after a year!

Did some sets but was super tired and bit stressed from the nympho chick basically trying to rape my brown ass

Got two numbers, one is responding. One was an Asian gal, the other Mexican/Brown.

 

[Ravi]

Many thanks to one of our members for letting me know my calendy link wasn't working.

If you want to book a free consult with me, to see if we'd be a good fitment to work together on my Accountability & High Performance program for business goals, life & romantic, and other areas of focus and commitment, the link on my website (see sig) should be working now.

-Ravi