Thrice log. weird saturday night

[Squilliam]

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[Antonio44]

Thrice, It really is a battle against your psyche every time here, isn't it?

+1 (said with love).

This super high feeling of "I deserve only the hottest girls" is holding you back. Are you scared of success?

it's still encouragion that i got matches with normal looking girls with pictures that i consider not good at all, certainly i can do better than that

Do you want really want to keep spending years trying to make yourself more "attractive", trying to tweak the perfect instagram etc. Or just go out and fuck a few of these (perfectly alright looking - and one of the "normal" ones looks hot to me) tinder matches you discount as being normal. If you were getting laid with a new girl every week, then yeah, start being as picky as you want. But until then..


I suspect you'll reply, "I deserve hotter ones". But really, what is the point/who you trying to impress here, your ego? Like fucking a girl you're sexually attracted to is great. If you don't have the sexual desire for these women, and you're watching porn/masturbating, try stopping. It really changes your drive, and makes you keen to fuck more variety of women.


Plus, hot women can sense if you're having sex or not.

 

[Thrice]

In my experience 9/10 times they're a timewaster when they do this. Doesn't hurt to take the lead anyways though.

agree, but i remeber 2 times with the other tinder profile when girls that seemed interested asked for ig, and by interested i mean giving compliments or introducing some sexual things in the conversation, my idea back then is that they wanted to feel safe but who knows

interested

This super high feeling of "I deserve only the hottest girls"

what? never thought or wrote that in my entire life, i'm not rejecting any girl, it's always their choice

going from only matching trans and obese girls to normal girls is a great achievment, but it's still their choice, i'm not in a position to reject any girl anyway so i dont know why you think that

i mention the quality of the girls as a way to judge the performance of my pictures, not because i only want hot girls

 

[Antonio44]

interested

This super high feeling of "I deserve only the hottest girls"

what? never thought or wrote that in my entire life, i'm not rejecting any girl, it's always their choice

going from only matching trans and obese girls to normal girls is a great achievment, but it's still their choice, i'm not in a position to reject any girl anyway so i dont know why you think that

i mention the quality of the girls as a way to judge the performance of my pictures, not because i only want hot girls

@Thrice sorry, my bad - I misunderstood, thought you were rejecting any who were not "hot". If you can get 14 ok matches, can you convert some of them to dates?

 

[Thrice]

17 matches and wasent able to convert none of them into dates, they take ages to reply, its clear they could care less i blocked all of them so i can start with zero matches

While this girls are looking for the best option because average for them is disgusting, I'm checking if they reply because I'm lonely af, a very humiliating experience

I got a message today from a girl that wanted to go out, she was very enthusiastic and we met in 10 minutes, we have a lot of interest in common so i told her i would like to be friends

She's 19 and already fucked in the head, her hair alone is like 12 colours and about 5 piercing on the lips hahhaha I'm not attracted and she clearly has issues but she's very sweet and friendly

I unmatched all the other ones, i know they don't care, i do it so i stop caring too and stop checking

It's humiliating that we need them more than they need us, i still didn't accept this

 

[Thrice]

got over the anger and did a boost and got 17 matches + some matches here and there, i have matches with girls that are within 1 mile, ask them for a date same day, they say i cant today i have stuff to do, ask them for the day after and stop replying or take ages to reply so i just unmatch, i just get angry

i also matched some girls within a mile that didnt even answered the first text
i couple of girls agreed to meed but they're in towns without a train station

it looks like a have some matches with every boost, without boots is almost dead, i have no problem paying for boost but i also need a car for girls that arent in my small town, which is most of the matches

went from matching 1 trans and 1 obese girl once a month to actually some matches and some girls wanting to date

even if im 35, most matches are 18/22 this means i didnt age like shit (like woman do)

the profile is suboptimal, i still have that sad stare in some pics, so it's actually encouraging, i basically did an experiment with bad pictures on purpose

so i have to stay positive, fix logistics which wont be easy but is doable, new job + car + forniture, some genuine hobby pics and friends pics which doable to

i wish i got the first lay to get rid of that Elliot stare LOL but if i need new pictures even for just the first lay so be it, i got good with the camera and more confortable so it wont take much

 

[pancakemouse]

got over the anger and did a boost and got 17 matches + some matches here and there, i have matches with girls that are within 1 mile, ask them for a date same day, they say i cant today i have stuff to do, ask them for the day after and stop replying or take ages to reply so i just unmatch, i just get angry

Can you post the screenshots here (even in Italian)? It's likely you're rushing the meetup and being too needy.

 

[Thrice]

got over the anger and did a boost and got 17 matches + some matches here and there, i have matches with girls that are within 1 mile, ask them for a date same day, they say i cant today i have stuff to do, ask them for the day after and stop replying or take ages to reply so i just unmatch, i just get angry

Can you post the screenshots here (even in Italian)? It's likely you're rushing the meetup and being too needy.

i unmatched all the girls that went silent and didnt take screeshots

i exchanged numbers with this girl but didnt tell when she's free on watsap
https://imgur.com/a/DC7gYpZ


thats how i open sometimes, no answer in this case and she's within 1 mile

https://imgur.com/a/dtDT8V2

she's within 1 mile and her bio said "probably taller than you" No answer

https://imgur.com/a/BGvgu1o

this is an example of a good convo i had, the only problem is that she's in Bologna and i'm in Parma, it's 1 hour train distance

https://imgur.com/a/cbMs0sx

i will do screen when girls stop replying instead of unmatching

 

[Antonio44]

You can do it man. Just keep pushing. We need to get your first success here. Cause that first one is going to be a heavy uphill battle but after that, if you can do it once you can do it again and just keep building on it..

Agree with this, keep it up thrice!

Also - many women have tinder notifications turned off, and don't check it often, so don't be too quick to unmatch. Had plenty of dates where their reply time was more than 2 or 3 days (many times I was also slow replying). It's not a reflection on you or disinterest, just that a lot of people don't prioritize dating apps like we do on this forum.

 

[Antonio44]

this is an example of a good convo i had, the only problem is that she's in Bologna and i'm in Parma, it's 1 hour train distance

. Why not just go anyways, it's only an hour. On the date, you can also ask her to take some photos of you so you have more photos in a different setting/city.

 

[Manganiello]

ask them for a date same day, they say i cant today i have stuff to do, ask them for the day after and stop replying or take ages to reply so i just unmatch, i just get angry

"When are you free?"

Is about 20x better than asking if they're free that day.

Asking to meet too soon sends the wrong vibes for most girls.

Sure SOME girls will meet you the same day. But why scare MOST girls away? And then getting angry about it kind of shows you're expectations are not in line with reality.

it looks like a have some matches with every boost, without boots is almost dead, i have no problem paying for boost but i also need a car for girls that arent in my small town, which is most of the matches

Yup same experience for me. After awhile matches only came from boosts.

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Other thing. You need to upgrade your logistics. There's a few things that matter a lot with sleeping with girls.

1. WHO YOU ARE (Vibe + SMV)
2. VOLUME (number of approaches, boosts, swipes)
3. LOGISTICS (Living in a good spot)

If any one of those 3 things are off it will destroy your sex life.

If your serious you need to move.

I moved to one of the world's biggest cities that's known for its high beauty standard.

And before that I lived in the best possible location in a city with 1.4 million people.

Small town doesn't work and won't ever work.

You need to fix this if you want to quickly progress or get lots of experience with girls.

 

[Thrice]

Sure SOME girls will meet you the same day. But why scare MOST girls away?

they are retarded, i used to do tinder experiments with a good looking guy and they wanted to meet me in 10 minutes

If your serious you need to move.

i dontknow how to move, i dont pay rent here i sould leave and pay rent to someone else, i dont have a job or degree, i dont know about italian cities like rome or milan, the rent is like 500euros for a small room, nobody does this in Italy so i would be the only hwo moved just to get laid lol

but the problem is money, i should move and hope i find a job as a pizza delivery


ps: this fucking girl that gave me whatsap sent me a vocal message "i prefer watsap when i'm interested in someone because on tinder i get lost between thousands (!?) of matches so i select the ones i like most and give them watsap"

this girl is 33 and NOT attractive, not ugly but not attractive either, average at best, no guys with option would fuck her and she has thousands of matches, not onlt that but she's also saying that i'm one of the lucky people she chose to move on watsap, wow i feel super lucky LOL

god knows how many lucky guys had the honor to move on watsap, just to be forgotten there to anyway

no wonder they dont reply, this game is so fucking rigged

what should i do? should i put aside my pride and double text in cases like this?

 

[Manganiello]

what should i do? should i put aside my pride and double text in cases like this?

Probably doesn't matter. You should just run the game the same for each girl. I don't double text. And I'm sure I would convert like 1 or 2% more if I did. But who cares.

so i would be the only hwo moved just to get laid lol

Well most people don't have a log on a forum for the purpose of getting laid.

but the problem is money, i should move and hope i find a job as a pizza delivery

Ya I had to do the same thing. I mean I didn't deliver pizza. But I had to problem solve how to make more money to get better locations.

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Like a lot of success in dating just comes from your own ability to achieve desires, in general.

If you fail (or worse, don't even try) to find a job that pays enough. How are you going to do well at anything else in life?

 

[pancakemouse]

i unmatched all the girls that went silent and didnt take screeshots

i exchanged numbers with this girl but didnt tell when she's free on watsap
https://imgur.com/a/DC7gYpZ

- Never ask more than two questions in a row. Better to tease or make assumptions than ask questions. This matters, or else you just leech value from girls.
- You rush the meetup without her giving any signs of interest. This is a sure bet to giving a flaky number.
- The conversation you SHOULD have had happened after she rejected you. She wanted more comfort (Colombians need this in general).
- Your response to the job question was good.

thats how i open sometimes, no answer in this case and she's within 1 mile

https://imgur.com/a/dtDT8V2

Boring, standard opener. Every guy is sending this. You want to stand out from the rest. Send something unique, non-needy, that piques her interest and spikes her emotion to respond.

she's within 1 mile and her bio said "probably taller than you" No answer

https://imgur.com/a/BGvgu1o

This question sounds needy/low value because it sounds like you're coming from the position of a short guy who wants to qualify himself to her. Whenever a woman makes a confident statement it's better to tease her about it: "oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-)" or make some other tease about her height.

Your conversations don't have any flirting whatsoever, they come off dull. Gotta learn how to play with girl's emotions in order to fuck them.

they are retarded, i used to do tinder experiments with a good looking guy and they wanted to meet me in 10 minutes

Yes, and when I was Gengis Khan I had 17 concubines lining up to suck my cock without me saying a word.

Then I woke up.

You're not high value on Tinder. You're barely above average. So accept your position and starting acting in a calibrated way. That means not asking girls out same day.

 

[Thrice]

oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-)

should i always end with a question to get her to respond since i'm not good enough on tinder?

i mean something like:

"oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-) How are you?"

i feel saying something that doesent end with a question mark and expecting them to respond is something for higher value guys

that piques her interest and spikes her emotion to respond.

so saying i find her attractive would be needy? i dont how to pique her interest, she's within 1 mile and with an empty bio, all i can say is i like redheads, but giving free validation i guess is needy
thank you, i feel i want to do what i can here, at least get forniture and a car, fuck some girls, get cool social media with followers and a social circle, once i prove to myself i can do this i will move to a bigger city, also after improving my house with forniture i can rent it and use the money to move, not forever, i want to live here, i can rent it for 6 months and live elswhere 6 months and come back here, because i like to live in this city even if its not optimal for tinder


also what to do if they dont respond lets say for a week, is it worth it to send another text? i guess is needy but i'm not interacting with her anyway

 

[pancakemouse]

oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-)

should i always end with a question to get her to respond since i'm not good enough on tinder?

i mean something like:

"oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-) How are you?"

i feel saying something that doesent end with a question mark and expecting them to respond is something for higher value guys

that piques her interest and spikes her emotion to respond.

so saying i find her attractive would be needy? i dont how to pique her interest, she's within 1 mile and with an empty bio, all i can say is i like redheads, but giving free validation i guess is needy
thank you, i feel i want to do what i can here, at least get forniture and a car, fuck some girls, get cool social media with followers and a social circle, once i prove to myself i can do this i will move to a bigger city, also after improving my house with forniture i can rent it and use the money to move, not forever, i want to live here, i can rent it for 6 months and live elswhere 6 months and come back here, because i like to live in this city even if its not optimal for tinder


also what to do if they dont respond lets say for a week, is it worth it to send another text? i guess is needy but i'm not interacting with her anyway

If your text is "spiky" enough, you don't have to end in a question mark. She should be intrigued enough to write back. In fact, adding a question would just relieve the tension of your spike. Example for the redhead: "I hope you're not one of those crazy redheads "

If it's more boring, like you're answering a question she asked you, then ask her a question back.

You can double text a couple days later if they don't respond, but don't expect much

 

[Thrice]

should i always end with a question to get her to respond since i'm not good enough on tinder?

i mean something like:

"oh god another girl that thinks she's taller than me ;-) How are you?"

i feel saying something that doesent end with a question mark and expecting them to respond is something for higher value guys

so saying i find her attractive would be needy? i dont how to pique her interest, she's within 1 mile and with an empty bio, all i can say is i like redheads, but giving free validation i guess is needy

thank you, i feel i want to do what i can here, at least get forniture and a car, fuck some girls, get cool social media with followers and a social circle, once i prove to myself i can do this i will move to a bigger city, also after improving my house with forniture i can rent it and use the money to move, not forever, i want to live here, i can rent it for 6 months and live elswhere 6 months and come back here, because i like to live in this city even if its not optimal for tinder


also what to do if they dont respond lets say for a week, is it worth it to send another text? i guess is needy but i'm not interacting with her anyway

If your text is "spiky" enough, you don't have to end in a question mark. She should be intrigued enough to write back. In fact, adding a question would just relieve the tension of your spike. Example for the redhead: "I hope you're not one of those crazy redheads "

If it's more boring, like you're answering a question she asked you, then ask her a question back.

You can double text a couple days later if they don't respond, but don't expect much

ok thanks brother

lets do this live experiment because she just replied a minute ago hahah

she didnt text for 3 days, in the audio she said she has thounsands of matches and if she like someone she moves on watsap, she also said she works a lot but she can be free at 9pm for a beer, in the last text on tinder i told her to tell me when she's free

update:

i responded to her low effort text with a youtube link (a metal song i like), if she doesent engage i wont text her anymore, i already reek of desperation

 

[pancakemouse]

If your text is "spiky" enough, you don't have to end in a question mark. She should be intrigued enough to write back. In fact, adding a question would just relieve the tension of your spike. Example for the redhead: "I hope you're not one of those crazy redheads "

If it's more boring, like you're answering a question she asked you, then ask her a question back.

You can double text a couple days later if they don't respond, but don't expect much

ok thanks brother

lets do this live experiment because she just replied a minute ago hahah

she didnt text for 3 days, in the audio she said she has thounsands of matches and if she like someone she moves on watsap, she also said she works a lot but she can be free at 9pm for a beer, in the last text on tinder i told her to tell me when she's free

You could go straight for the kill: "how's the schedule looking for that drink?" but it's probably too soon, you'll get deflected again.

I would maybe start with a tease about working too much and see show she responds. From that you can decide when to ask for the date again.

 

[Thrice]

To be honest i like to dance to music, approaches or not i like to get wasted and forget the world, cannabis makes vomit and drinking two cocktails every weekend dose not align well with my goal of getting lean

All my hope are on phenibut tried 2g/3g from fusion supplements and didnt feel anything... Edibles are illegal in europe but I'm looking on the dark web, any advice?

 

[Ravi]

Gotta stay within the law always brother, I have to protect your ass and keep you and the community safe.

We never discuss anything that is illegal. No dark web discussions.

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