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hush said:MAC I'm saying this because I like you and want you to succeed, I hope it doesn't come off as mean: you come off as really really judgemental sometimes
To you most people are shit
I am literally never a dickhead to people and always super patient/kind, you will never see me act like an ass in the world, I am a professional person and a responsible member of the community, reliable service provider, and serious about success! ;-)
How can you say you're never a dickhead to anyone and then say women are trash, you only want to be around men who make 6 figures and are top 1% and blablabla?
You say everyone is trash and yet treat everyone with kindness?? There's a serious disconnect between what you think you do and what you really do
Your niceness is conditional. You're nice only if people act in the way you want - the girls are nice to you, the men are successful...
You're nice only until you realize the girl is not into you, the man isn't grinding 7/7 or doesn't fit your vision of success ...
Genuine niceness means you're nice to anyone: the elderly, the ugly dude, the fat girls... and except nothing in return.
Real nice guy syndrom here. "I am so nice to them, why don't women accept to suck my dick?? they're all trash!!"
MakingAComeback said:Women, are not worth it dude. Trust me on that.
What an awful thing to think.
+ you attract what you think about, you get shitty women because you talk about how women are shit all the time.
You think they're trash, why would they be attracted to you?
You're not doing anyone a service by being "nice", stop being nice, start being you, please
We decided, I am going to back away from night game. It is not supporting my body goals, and also, is just a waste of time.
As far as I remember you've been in a new city for something like 2 months and you're already giving up on night game there?
Well, that was an example of a post after a brutal few weeks dating, several ghosts, several flakes, and endless harsh rejections. In those times, I can be a bit angry. I appreciate your post, your thoughts are welcome, and I understand you are a well-intentioned commentor.
That is what this works looks like sometimes.
I got a late start in life, I have a big gap to close, I can't afford to be around those who will slow me down. I am not where I want to be and it fucking kills me. I generally get on very well with people, am socially adept, popular, and very likeable. But I will not invest in people who will not be fruitful.
Wanting to be around elite men only - no! and I have never said that. That is actually quite off base, but I see where you are coming from and this feedback is useful for me. Evidently, I am giving off the wrong impression. So, anyone who reads this knows, I am a guy who loves the grinders, the underdogs, the guys who have to go through shit and suffering to become successful. I am one of those guys. I am from a terrible background and from the bottom. I love people who climb up, just love them, they make me proud and my heart is filled with joy when they succeed. Many of my friends are. Some of my closest friends, are flat broke, not successful at all, but have other solid abilities (intellect, sporting ability, humour, friendship, etc) and are just great fucking people. So, we are great friends.
Being around men, who are better than me, enables me to learn, become more successful, and then allows me to help those who need me to be the best man I can be.
That is how I see it.
All the info I get, all the shit I learn, just goes straight back into KYIL, and into my other groups.
Money, is not everything. I always say, life is about people and community.
I understand, this is hard to sometimes discern from the log, so I understand your take, and I am open to feedback.
I must say, that I cannot back from success. I refuse to be a loser and just get my head kicked in. I do not accept average and do not accept mediocrity. I will get in the ring and fight. That will piss people off. Oh well. They can take a ticket and get in line with 500 other people who don't like me, and they can suck my fucking dick.
Not sure I agree with the disconnect, this feels super simplistic, and does not look at nuance, does not consider my driven personality, and also, ask anyone who knows me, and they will attest to my warm and engaging personality and likeability. You don't get ahead in life as a male without being legit. Statements like, you think everyone is trash, are quite harsh and also, just FYI, make it hard to take feedback onboard as they are boarding on abrasive. I know this isn't your intent, and in general, I am good with feedback and encourage free speech. Evidently, my posts as of late have featured some anger and aggression.
I have to be better. So, I will work on that.
Your niceness is conditional. You're nice only if people act in the way you want - the girls are nice to you, the men are successful...
You're nice only until you realize the girl is not into you, the man isn't grinding 7/7 or doesn't fit your vision of success ...
Genuine niceness means you're nice to anyone: the elderly, the ugly dude, the fat girls... and except nothing in return.
Real nice guy syndrom here. "I am so nice to them, why don't women accept to suck my dick?? they're all trash!!"
Not so cut and dry.
Again, your take is very simplistic and lacks nuance, and you deliver your feedback in a way that makes it hard to take seriously, such as implying I am a dick to the elderly and such.
I am in fact a very community centred person, and am very warm and engaging with people of all walks of life, especially children and the elderly, I've volunteered with old people and those on intensive care units for many years, serving my local community. I have a solid reputation here, because I am legit as a male.
Overall, I am struggling to see the utility in this post, honestly. I can't see anything practical or actionable for myself, other than "be nice, bro". Which is not usually good advice.....
People who have genuinely done the work, will know there are lows in the journey, and will recognise when my post is a by product of me having my psyche beaten in. The experienced members and guys who have done the work, tend to ignore my posts which are obviously angry, because they know I am working hard and getting my head smashed in some days, and just venting.
I feel like, I have had to use my own precious time to address things in this post, because they paint a fucking awful picture, and this is very far from the truth, and also just doesn't show proper appreciation for the realities of the self improvement journey. There are ups and downs.
Do I actually think women are trash?
.......No.
I have liked them a lot in the past, but over time, you do lose faith in them, they do let you down so much, and as time goes on, yes I have lost my faith in them and no longer feel like I did. For a good, solid year, I really loved women a lot and would roll with the punches. Now, I do not feel like that anymore. Some are good, some are bad, most probably fall somewhere inbetween. Overall: they're nothing to write home about. It is what it is.
Just how I feel, right now, maybe I will meet one who changes my mind.
Killing inner niceness, and being more of a bastard, are actually things that are supporting me. This is inevitable, and a part of the process. The world and reality will hammer the male until he can recalibrate his psyche and kill his niceness. You become more like stone, and part of that, is that you start to like women less, and see them differently. You change your frame, and start to have some damn respect for yourself. That can be ugly.
MAC