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Ravi, Year 3: Self-Improvement Log - Data-Driven, Incremental Growth [DISCIPLINE]

Chiming in quickly to say that a girl's past, while I agree it can be a legitimate concern for LTR purposes, is not an indication of her "quality"

You say your quality hasn't improved, but from what I see on the pics, she's much cuter/hotter than previous girls you've posted.

The true test of your SMV is, how hot are the girls you're 1) fucking and 2) retaining.

It has nothing to do with how sweet, affectionate, or promiscuous they are.

Besides, it seems like you got the truth out of her. Most guys aren't so lucky. Most girls are savvy enough to hide their pasts for precisely this reason, and they only let down their guard in this respect when they're assured you, as a man, won't judge them for it.

Point being, most girls are more promiscuous than most guys think. This is as true for a girl who's 24 as for a girl who's 35.

She treats you well, and she's hotter than your previous girls (right? I don't know for sure). So what's there to complain about? If you knew from the start she was 35, you probably already knew she wasn't going to be the mother of your children anyway. So what really changed?
 
Has the quality of woman I date moved, at all, over 3 years? NO

Retarded argument.

We've told you multiple times not to like whales/ugly girls. And you still did. Your responsibility.

"But what was I supposed to do, you Greek troll??? I wasn't getting any matches!"

Which brings me to =>

The Dom - a guy who has gotten laid with all types of game, in all kinds of location, with hot girls, and overall one of the best "not a dating coach players in the world - told you that Budapest was a bad market for you. Yet, you stayed there for a year, getting browndown after browndown.

You deserve what happened in your dating life because you cherry-pick advice and think you can Frankenstein together a plan that will work for you.

If you pick a mentor, you shut up and do what the mentor tells you to do. You don't listen to other people, no matter how good they are, especially when you have minimal results. Your problem was, is, and will continue to be that you try to listen to many people at once - Andy, Dom, Radical, PancakeMouse, Rags, Dante, etc. And you get confused because, for example, something the Dom says might contradict what PM says and vice versa.

Lastly, it boggles my mind that you haven't put together a plan to find a good location. You want a wife and kids? Go to a location where the majority of the girls will want a husband and kids. It sounds like a Captain Obvious moment, but I bet you haven't considered this.

Spoiler alert: This place won't be Budapest (since you're brown) or NYC (America IMO is a failed society and you'll get raped if you get a divorce.) Look for places where having a family is celebrated and not seen as a nuisance.

Great human. I even like her. I just can't get over the way her body looks and the fact she didn't take care of it properly. And her past, is just too much man.

That's unfair.

You were a complete disaster just 4 years ago that no woman wanted to date. If the past is so important, why are you entitled to an exception and she isn't? It's not like she killed kids.

From what I understand she's also trying to heal. If anything, you two are great together.

Sure, she might not be marriage material, but you barely had 30 lays. You don't exactly find marriage material girls after every 2-3 app lays, you know.

I wonder if you're hoping to find your own Immogen as Andy did.
 
If you pick a mentor, you shut up and do what the mentor tells you to do. You don't listen to other people, no matter how good they are, especially when you have minimal results. Your problem was, is, and will continue to be that you try to listen to many people at once - Andy, Dom, Radical, PancakeMouse, Rags, Dante, etc. And you get confused because, for example, something the Dom says might contradict what PM says and vice versa.
Nope, I'm pretty sure all of us agree. The problem is not the advice, it's Ravi's brain. Until the brain is healed, any advice given will not be heeded.

The idea was to go to Mexico and relax and "not think about dating". Yet somehow you have a girlfriend and every post here is now discussing women (despite you leaving Game-focused groupchats for the purposes of "not discussing women").

My advice that won't be taken: sever, disconnect, and fix yourself for as many months that is needed, just like you said you were going to do at the start of all this.
 
Something I will express:

-Quality Issues: I've complained about this for 3 years. We've not been able to progress this. This is a significant issue for me as it means I do not really enjoy the journey, as I am not able to get the outcomes I am looking for. I lost the heart to keep approaching, because I didn't see any of the metrics go up (stops, exchanges, dates, etc).

For all the guff and bluster, and all the typical male inability to listen and oversimplification, I have actually tried different locations:

-Several different cities in the UK
-Europe: Several cities in Poland. Hungary, Budapest. Did experiments across the Schengen zone. Match quality & frequency was poor. A few numbers a month (usually 1 to 3). Quality range, I'd say were 4 or 5 tops.
-US: NYC. I got matches. 2 converted to dates. Fat women.
-Latin America: Mexico, Brazil. Performed just as badly as anywhere else.

Again, I expressed these things, was clear about them.

Just got glossed over.

I don't dispute the above know a thing or two.

And yet, we're not able to replicate outcomes, the advice, when put in practice, literally has not produced outcomes in any measurable sense across day or night game.

What DID happen, however, is I am more reliably able to sleep with women I am able to screen through online dating. This is usually where my quality issues are at their worst. So, yeah.....

To be here after 3 years, where I have enjoyed ONE lay (which was in the 2nd month of this journey, years ago) is frustrating. And I am expressing this clearly for the last time. Please try to listen.

Anyway, what I am actively working on, daily:

-Healing Actions: Reading & Study. 2 x guided meditation made by my healer girlfriend, morning and night. Weekly therapy session. Energy and emotional work with my girlfriend, who is a professional healer and coach. She has many years of experience, has some impressive healing results with herself and her clients, and generally very much an expert.

-Biz & SMV raising work.

I didn't intend to be talking about relationships. I didn't approach her. I didn't match with her. I was in the world, living. She liked me, and asked me out.

I will deal with it.

I am going to keep working on myself as I agreed. I will get to the heart of the actual issue.

You can blame "my brain".

And you can forget that I have had to sift through 3 years of experiences I do not want, while unable to create the ones I do want.

When I express this, usually, it's radio silence.............................................

That was why I stepped away and stopped talking to all of the above.

I'm going to keep working on myself, and I will figure it out.

Thanks,
-Ravi
 
i will gloss over this entire discussion and also your log to highlight this one statement
To be here after 3 years, where I have enjoyed ONE lay (which was in the 2nd month of this journey, years ago) is frustrating. And I am expressing this clearly for the last time. Please try to listen.
would you mind articulating here why this ONE lay is the one you enjoyed?

if possible, it'd be good for you to replay every single lay and even non-lay (but "milestone" experience to you) throughout when you actively pursued dating. would love to see how you currently recall every lay and milestone experience right now, "laid" out one by one. like more specifically each experience as opposed to just grouping them and talking about them generally.
 
You should also address, in full definition, what "quality" to YOU is?

From the pictures, it looks like she is cute. She treats you REALLY well, is a stand up gal with a good heart, in your words. You didn't say much to her values, so maybe there is a misalignment there. From the outside she sounds "quality".

Maybe she didn't take care of her body as well, as you say. So? You could lead her to taking better care of it.

You may not jive with her past, but is she still the woman that holds those previous values? Do you believe people can change? Who is she now? @Crisis_Overcomer, rightfully pointed out that you were not stellar in your past. Yet we all respect you for who you are now. I'd be curious to know why she is no longer doing it. If she was so good at it and it made her lots of money, why did she stop? Sounds like some character to look at there.

I'm not trying to convince you either way. I don't know this girl at all. Maybe you should break up with her.

I'm just trying to show you that while you're hunting for unicorns, there are plenty of amazing stallions you could be riding off into the sunset on.
 
Social circle game. Becoming a club promoter or something. Being high social status in an environment where everyone knows you and kisses your ass. Look up BowTiedSocialCircle on X. Chris from GLL got like half his lays and most of the hottest ones from getting into the high status social circles in LA, providing... services to guys who let him live in their fuck mansion, etc. KYIL and others put such a heavy emphasis on being a lone wolf spamming OLD and cold approaching, and that's great and all, but if its just not doing it for you then. That and/or facial surgery or something.
 
Something I will express:

I feel the need to say this for the majority who were not privy to this happening line by line in our chat or in person: many of your "facts" or "truths" are in fact not true or heavily manipulated.

Your brain constantly searches for whatever data will fit its current narrative instead of objectively perceiving reality.

It is obvious to me and others (hopefully almost everyone reading this who is familiar with you) that you are ungrounded.

Not even going to bother rebutting the above point by point because we will not be able to have an objective conversation about women until you make significant progress on healing your brain.
 
Alright, that's fair.

I am working on it. Daily. Like, for hours.

I will improve my logging and reporting here.

I will say, my metrica are actually going UP for:

-Income
-Body
-Relationships


My mood, energy, health, all going UP

My chick believes I am having a "healing crisis" or what she calls a "breakdown breakthrough" in response to a lot of the healing work. I'm of the same opinion. It is sincerely very painful work.

But, it is working.

I will nonetheless respond to everyone. And I will shelve it for now and just work harder on my biological & emotional healing. I am dedicating SEVERAL HOURS to this a day. It's not like I am not doing the work....

-R
 
What I will say, is, the more I heal, the better she is looking

I mean, I don't know wtf it was, but she was looking FIRE today. I think it's when her hair is up.

She came over after I finished client calls today. Hit it raw for a while. Came in her mouth. Went out for dinner.

Now doing a little more work, and then gonna sign off for the day.

Days like this are killer. So good.

Worked hard for 3 years to be able to have days like this. Remember that. In fairness, she is very facially attractive (beautiful IMO) and she has started to lift weights, we went last week and she really did push it.

I will circle back and reply to everyone. Taking a short break and then doing some work.

She leaves for a 3 week trip tomorrow. I will do healing work with the time that opens up not trying to maintain a relationship.

-MAC
 
-Several different cities in the UK
-Europe: Several cities in Poland. Hungary, Budapest. Did experiments across the Schengen zone. Match quality & frequency was poor. A few numbers a month (usually 1 to 3). Quality range, I'd say were 4 or 5 tops.
-US: NYC. I got matches. 2 converted to dates. Fat women.
-Latin America: Mexico, Brazil. Performed just as badly as anywhere else.

So the issue here is that for a period of time, your apps were cockroach browned - meaning you got no likes or the volume was low.

I think Pancake and Rags created accounts with your pics. And they got matches.

There's a good chance you'll do better now. I'm also happy to give it a try when I get my new phone. In fact, I'd prefer it if I (or someone else) did the new tests.

We are literally willing to spend hours and money to help you with your dating. And you're being a bitch who won't listen. Brown retard.
 
Ok you useless brown I will try it again and set it to manilla like you said

We’ll see
 
Every day. We get better.
 

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@Crisis_Overcomer I set it to Manilla and got a few matches. They were all trans apart from 1. It can't be that my profile is REKT, because as you can see, it IS getting matches in some places. Nonetheless, I am not sure what you wanted to prove with the location switch. I am not exactly impressed by what came through here dude. Why were you so sure you'd prove your point if I did this....? Needless to say, this was not the outcome I was looking for.

I would be down to roll through the Philippines at some point. It looks beautiful, and I gotta say, the chicks look quite cute tbh. I do not expect this will be very fruitful in terms of dating. My sense for this is quite keen. You seem to gloss over the multitude of locations I have tried. And the warrior grinding required to achieve some modest outcomes. Hard fought progress was made. And yet, the gap between where I am, and where I want to be, remains pretty significant.

My issue was, I just wasn't closing that gap in any appreciable respect. The work, focus, and dedication was there. I failed to close the gap, because my SMV development is very slow.

Being tall as fuck (6ft5) is just a massive pain in the ass for dating at low SMV, because muscle gains are so slow, your SMV takes so, so long to move. Stoicism and patience is the answer for this problem.

Continuing to play on nightmare mode, is not what I am looking for. I have explained this in conversations with people, where it's easier to convey the textures and hues, and most people actually reach a moment where they are like...damn...ok...and accept what I say.

Communities like ours are prone to drawing in quite autistic men who are overly atomistic and reductionist in their thinking and often struggle with complexity and multivariate problems. It takes a lot of patience to have to express the same ideas and present the same problem, for multiple years.

I may just make a video to express it clearly. For the sake of posterity if nothing else. It is my opinion that SMV solves dating "quality" problems. And I expect, if I am able to properly move up a point, my issues will go away overnight, and I can essentially just enjoy the fruits of my labours.

I am looking to find a way where it's workable. Having switched to many different locations now, I am hardly able to report a discernable improvement in quality. And that is after 3 years of hardcore self improvement. The truth is, the gains are very slow, and at SMV disadvantages, finding ways to compete visually, is a very tall order. It turns my stomach to even think about this problem to be frank, and it is not one I wanted to still be grappling with at this point in the game.

Anyway, having fulfilled my obligation to testing, auditing the Greeks hypothesis, to no real avail, we can resume business as usual.

The next level for me, will be found in:

-SMV Raising: Go from 5 to 6/10. Done. That will be enough to get what I am looking for. It must be done. This can be done with muscle, low bf, tattooing, style changes, and cosmetic surgery.
-Location Switching: UK = death. Will stay out of that place. Europe, was just as bad. NYC, was glimmers of hope. I got 1 or 2 decent matches there. Mexico and Latin America, sadly, looks bleak here. Pains me as these women are brown themselves. But hey, they are entitled to their preferences. No use in arguing with reality. I am no longer optimistic about location switches, having done them a few times and been entirely underwhelmed.

.....That's it.

The sheer stupidity of some of the stuff I read makes me want to slam my head against a wall. There is little utility in continuing to switch locations, approach, and use apps when we have systematically proven at my current looks level, we are counting on miracles. They do happen. It is just a tonne of grinding and for the "rewards", it just ain't worth it.

I got my current chick, by sheer luck. Right place, right time. I was not even trying. She is AWESOME. But I just can't look past certain things. My choice. Do I like her A LOT? Yes. She also likes me. I am happy with her, and will roll with it, but it has an end date in the future because there are certain things that are just a deal breaker for me. I will enjoy every day, until then. We're in each other's life right now, for a reason.

There WILL be deeper and strategic ways to improve SMV. Men smarter than me, are able to do it. They know the correct optimisations and have a superior aesthetic sense than I do. I will keep pushing, consulting more widely, and do what it takes. My body recomp coach, will get me there. He wants me to get to 100kg as a priority, and then we will cut down. That should produce a good step change in SMV. That should be enough for half a point. The surgeries will be done later this year (rhinoplasty) which will correct my face and maybe add 0.25. There are men who ascended from 5 to 6 and I have seen how it changed their reality.

...If you think this preoccupation is a bit annoying at this stage for you to read, I'd invite you to go do 2 - 3000 approaches this year, and see no difference between the outcomes now, and at the end of the year. What would you do if this metric just didn't move no matter what you said, did, or tried?

Like me, you'd have to face the music and make the visual adjustments it takes.

The hive mind, can slightly annoy me at times, but I am patient, and open to feedback.

Having addressed the above now, and having actually tried the aforementioned advice, anyone who is fair minded and reasonable who reads this log, will understand I will just have to keep hitting the gym, saving for the procedures, and keep researching far and wide how to genuinely shift SMV to where your attraction levels start to change.

I am a firm believer in the answers existing. It often takes a lot of persistence with research and trial and error. The good news? Have tried and tested a bunch. Took what is useful, discarded what wasn't. That got me further along.

Now comes the game of patience, waiting, and just letting nature take it's course.

Through INTENT, FOCUS, and DISCIPLINE, and learning how to really raise SMV, I will make this happen this year.

Thanks all,
-MAC
 
I was a bit pissed off because I was on my way to see S, and I was triggered by her anyway. I was not pissed off at you or your question. I didn't mind that question, rather, it was the situation. So, I will try to answer now.

To get better.

To understand how I can improve.

To achieve my goals.

And to try to help others in the same vein.

I want to get a really stellar life situation, and I also, honestly, want to see others who were in the position I was, get better and get a life that they will say is enough for them to be satisfied and content.

Posting here, helps me a lot. It helps me process things. As you know, because you know me personally, I find processing nigh on impossible. So when I write things, it actually triggers processing a few hours, or a few days later. This helps me in general and is a big reason why my life got better. And has kept improving. Though it needs a lot of work yet. Likely 2-3 years. Progress, has been slow for me man. Big time.

I was at one point a few weeks ago, ready to just delete this log and hang it up. The reaction to this was negative, so I didn't do it.

Regarding affirming my identity: perhaps. We can all psychoanalyse and read too deeply into these things, projecting the latest idea or psycho-babble we're preoccupied with. The world is shades of grey, humans are infinitely complex; I care very little about evaluating such minutiae or trivialities.

Documenting the overall journey, and myself reflecting on themes and ways I feel, helps me.

And I will also say, my desire to help make some sort of contribution, is very strong. It just feels good, to know that there is the possibility of this work serving others in some small way. I have no grandiose vision nor do I pretend to be able to influence very many. I recognise that this forum, is quite small, and the subset of the population who is able to do such intensive, daily, vigorous and, quite frankly, downright assbusting self-improvement, is small.

That does not mean one should not try.

So, I will continue to post, improve, and get better.

Loki, I am unsure why you really want to know the answer to this, to such that you'd follow up. It puzzles me. This seems like strange behaviour. I suppose that is just your considerable autism. Anyway, there is you answer, take it or leave it. That aside, I hope you are well, and look forward to reading the updates that you promised you would post.

Thanks,
-Ravi
 
I honestly don't really know if I am doing this stuff right. I mean, I don't really get it, I am doing what I'm told, I have a therapist I speak to weekly, and I ofc work with S. I am doing inner work daily.

I don't really feel any different yet.

I will keep up the work, man, and keep letting go.

Sometimes, it takes a while.

Sure, I actually agree re. doing the work w/ S. I stopped this. I realised this would be a bit weird.....She is not here right now anyway, she is gone for 3 weeks.

I am going to keep on keeping on and I don't disagree with your post. Improving this, will help be a happier and more positive person. I do not necessarily believe this improves outcomes where I need them to. We both know that is a consequence of SMV improvements. That, will come. We both agree that improving SMV & Inner World is highest ROI atm. So let it be so.

I am just letting go for now and enjoying my life. It's better than it used to be for sure. Quality problem, is fixable with SMV. Inner World, is fixable with doing the work correctly.

I am on top of this. It has to change. So, let it be done............


It can't be a bad thing to improve one's inner world. Let's see if it helps. I am open minded to it. We will just be patient with it. I'll do 5 more sessions with Kristina and if we're not making progress, and I still don't see how to change the inner world, I will find someone else.

SMV raising efforts will eventually pay off. Logically, we know this. Men who have been able to get into the 6 range usually are able to find someone who is at that level. It should not elude me for arbitrary reasons.

On the SMV front, I am pushing so hard in the gym. I dread going in the mornings because I know the pain to come.

Today I hit 140kg x 15 in deadlifts. My max is over 200kg right now. For context, in January, I was struggling to lift 100kg. I have more than DOUBLED in strength in 5 months.

I am no stranger to hard work and have no issues doing it.

Inner work, is not my domain. But I am working on it. I expect with gains in it. it should help me be a happier person. I do not believe in "inner game" or much "game" for that matter (patent horseshit, tried & tested). But I do believe, however, better a happier and more grounded person, is useful for long term quality of life, and in coming to overall acceptance if that is what one must do.

Is what it is man.

-MAC
 
Weekend was healing work, lots of infact

Strength in gym was good, had a killer session I was not looking forward to

140kg x 14 in deadlifts which was a tough battle but puts my max over 200kg

Today gotta hustle again baby

Day plan as below. Morning routine in my rooftop and then off to beach to deliver my coaching.
 
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