OK, bros. I know when it is time to take advise. I have listened, and I will push on with L, try my best to make it happen, but I will NOT be upset if it doesn't happen.
Time to be truthful and honest with you all for a minute:
When I came to this journey, I really needed help turning myself around as a man. I was deeply upset about how I did with women. It drove me almost to the very limits of my sanity.
I was very very very desperate and in a dark dungeon. I asked for help from other men, to be honest I wouldn't say I asked, I was practically begging for someone to help me.
I then did the work.
L, to be honest with you, was the reward I wanted from The Phoenix Project. I knew this would be a multiple year journey. I will see it all the way through, I am a truthful man. Yes I am a work in progress, some days I am defeated, some days I am beaten down, but I try my absolute ass off at everything I do and I get it done eventually. I will tighten up in time and be better.
You are all men I respect, I am impressed by so many of you and I am grateful to be here and have an opportunity to become great, To be honest, what I thrive off is community and brotherhood, to see my bros succeed is almost like crack cocaine, it makes me go insane, I get tingles on the back of my neck, my eyes bulge out their sockets, I am in awe that people accomplished what they did.
Because in truth, my whole life, I was just searching for significance. I have done a lot of mindset work since getting back from Krakow, and it feels like I have bled a lot of poison out my brain. Paw noticed I was different. Many people noticed. I am doing the work and taking the advice I was given.
The thing with L is, she is giving me a lot of positive attention, compliments, shows care, consideration, and inside, I get the feeling she does like me. That is really what I wanted, the feeling I was searching for was the feeling of a girl wanting to know me.
Most girls I dated, ghosted.
Most girls I fucked, disappeared.
No girl my entire life texted me every day. That NEVER happened. You know a lot about me, I have shared everything, I am a humble and honest person and you know I just wanted a girl to be nice to me.
But, again, like everything in my journey, its never simple is it? Complicated as ever. I have a goal and will plough through for 4 years. I am not doing any monogamous LTR stuff until 35 minimum. I have a lot of money to make, adventures to go on, and success to achieve.
I will build myself up, become a success, reach the next level, open the secret door and gain access to the life of a high value male, and then assess the terrain.
I didn't want to be a player, I just wanted a girl to care about me and be nice to me. None of them used to text me, give me compliments, buy me drinks. This never used to happen.
I BECAME BETTER
And the way women respond to me changed.
Being around L makes me feel good. Is it a wise investment of my time? Probably not, my goal is to get 1 more lay, and she is gonna be a hard nut to crack.
But it heals me. She is very cool, has a great personality, is beautiful, and makes me smile like you can't believe. When I was kicking her ass at bowling, she'd get a gutter ball and would come back to the seats stomping her feet like an angry child and being such a bad looser. It was so adorable lol. She is feminine, and that is woman's true power.
To win in dating as a woman is simple: just be nice.
Thats it.
The people who have to become something else entirely are us MEN.
But we've got this.
I have read your posts, understood what you're saying, and here's what I hear you saying: Ravi, just have a go, stick at it, and see what happens. Enjoy it either way. You may even have a shot.
I like this and do agree.
I'll do it. But equally, bros, I can't invest too much. We'd been texting twice a day, sometimes 3x. I can't invest this much in a woman who isn't willing to invest in my physical needs.....
Re. friendzoning, I might have done this, BUT, consider the following:
-Screened hard via text
-1st date: sexual convo, talked sex, invited her back to my place 4 TIMES, was physical throughout
-2nd date: very physical, hand on her back stroking her the whole time. She told me she is normally not Ok with this at all, she paused for a moment out of total shock, did a check in with herself, and said "I'm OK" (as we're guessing, she seems to have real trauma with intimacy). She declined my attempt at kissing her.
-3rd date: I went for the kiss, got declined. Later, she went for the kiss, but it was closed lipped, and just a brief peck. She informed me this was "massive" for her. We'd been hugging, very flirty, touching each other this date. She even felt my chest at one point.
The chick is crazy fun to be around. I'm only here for 4 more weeks, then I have to move back in with my parents because I've burned through most of my pissing money!!! lol
But I will make it all back. I'll grind 100hrs a week Jan - April and get myself right. And I will then start travelling.
Next year will be the year of really levelling up: body, mind, finances. Really building a fantastic physique. Really making great money. It CAN happen. In one year of true grind, we can succeed a lot.
Thats all I have to say on L. Ill keep trying, I'll see her while I am in London, and if nothing at all happens before she goes to Thailand, then it really is SAYONARA and I'll be bac with the parents, making cash, and off to see the world next year...........
MAC