Sonofagun
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Sisyphus said:@Sonofagun
I didn't mean that you get 0 lays after 10000 approaches, although there are people that get nothing for their first 2000.
What I do think happens is, you approach 10000, which is something insanely difficult to do, probably it's something that 99,99% of the population can't and isn't willing to do, requires a significant amount of energy, will power and time.
What I say is, after all that effort, you may still remain in scarcity and never actually develop an alpha frame.
You may never actually solve deeper issues like past trauma, being socially weird, etc.
You're simply a hard-ass that went through the trouble of talking every girl in town. Cool. Congrats.
You still need to invest massive amounts of time and energy if you want newer leads. Otherwise you're back at square one.
All while you keep getting older, you get a receding hairline, lower testosterone and sex drive, you want to focus more time on your business or work. So the most practical thing is to get into a LTR.
You may go through 10k approaches and never actually learn game, even if you get some results through sheer numbers game. If you didn't learn game, you have almost the same chance of having a shitty relationship where you become beta as a guy that never did a single approach.
Maybe that time and effort would've been better spent building your own thing that gives you fame, status, preselection etc.
Maybe it's even more productive to get on a few LTRs that you go through with a red-pill-aware mindset, where you get more sexual experience and relationship experience than you get doing those 10k approaches.
How many PUAs there are out there that remain forever socially weird? Maybe most of them?
How many of them get into LTRs, maybe even with 10/10 girls, but become huge simps?
Have you ever read The Game? What about Mystery being suicidal over one girl?
How many PUAs become Red Pill Talibans? I'm thinking Roosh V, etc.
Is this really what winning in life is?
All I'm saying is, daygame, doing lots of approaches, etc. doesn't guarantee anything, even if it takes massive amounts of dedication.
Yes you're correct it's no guarantee of anything but I think you're looking at the worst-case scenario. Some guys do get results, and do learn and improve, and make some fantastic memories (me for example, but also my wings). You just have to be smart enough to self assess and recognise when something is working v.s. not working and self-correct if the latter is the case.
Personally for me daygame is worth the hours spent on the street. I see a good ROI.
But I do agree there are a lot of oddballs out there who get absolutely nowhere with it yet keep going and eventually burn out. It certainly can't fix any deep-seated psychological issues, though it has (for me at least) made me bolder in social situations and less anxious