Spider Jerusalem
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Hey man thanks for the lengthy and detailed reply and sorry about getting back to you a bit late on this. Been catching up on my sleep and getting back into work after the dumpster fire of the vacation last week
It was pretty stupid of me upon reflection. I have been beating myself up about it this past week or so, but I think I need to chill on this. I get that impression that she's had no corrective behaviour mechanism in her life and people just put up with her bullshit. When I did walk, she blew up my phone (or tried to as I blocked her) and threw a tantrum pretty much. Yeah sorry I probably wasn't very clear on it with my update - we had sex once later that week but it felt like begrudging 'duty sex'.
100%. I must admit, after I got over the initial 'Am I a bad person for doing this?' Beta male thought process, it felt pretty good to stop her dead in her tracks like I did with leaving and blocking her on everything.
You're right man. I gotta read between the lines. She's been living in America, so I only saw her couple times a year but never really lived with her like we did the other week. Big mistake on my part which I won't be repeating.
Everything was booked late (room etc.) and flights have skyrocketed due to the fuel crisis. I did spend a fair bit on meals and gifts whilst I was there too, so this could go someway toward explaining it, but I should've planned better and shopped around - this was too much to spend so I'll learn from this for next time. I reckon I could do South America for a hell of a lot cheaper and there'll be more receptive and feminine women there too. This is something I've been considering doing for a while.
Lesson Learned! I've been signing up for every scrap of overtime going at work and saving up is the new goal. Pretty much working full-time at the minute.
I had a bit of a mental breakdown about 6 months ago (various family and work related issues) and I was off sick from work for 4 months (signed off by a doctor), so this duty manager job I'm doing at the minute is to get me back into work. It's not too taxing and the pay is okay, but I do want a bit more. However, I'm still on antidepressants and I'm not 100% there yet, but I'm hoping to stick this out a bit to put some cash in my back pocket and continue to work on managing my mental health. Recently graduated, so once I'm more evened out, it'll be next on the list to get a decent, better paying job or I'll look at getting a higher-paying role with this company. Work in progress.
Yes mate, I did feel a bit guilty for about a day or so after, but now I see it as the right decision. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Felt like I was finally manning up and found my balls when I did this. Found a side of me that I wasn't quite sure I had. You and the other guys who commented were a real big help - big thanks to AskTheDom so thank you for this.
Yeah you're right this was just a big cope on my part and I wasn't being honest with myself. I broke one of the commandments and I paid for it dearly. I'll have a think on that one. Definitely will go on my own and pick an interesting place. Any girls I meet wherever I go will just be the icing on the cake so to speak.
Honestly, I think it just pissed me off at the time that I was having a rough time with this chick and I was seeing other people having smooth sailing with the girls they were dating. I do sometimes feel I'm missing out, but I wouldn't get into a relationship again because I like seeing other people and I don't feel like I'm at the level that Andy and some of the other elite guys are at where they are in the very good position that they can write their own ticket and be in a relationship, but sleep with other girls non-monogamously. That would be something I'd consider for the future.
True. This was scarcity mindset talk when I need to get back into the abundance mindset. I get a little narrow-minded when I'm pissed off and having a rough time. Thank you for helping me see this.
This was a very hard, but very important lesson for me to learn. Yeah she found my antidepressants and asked. Me thinking I'd known her for 5 years and could trust her, or rather known 'of her' as you put it which I'm seeing as the truth now, I just told her like a dumbass. Haven't really got any guy friends, so this is something I need to work on. Haven't got any friends full stop really, so yeah I should probably look at addressing this. Totally agree with this now as I read some Red Pill stuff on it which sadly the Red Pill gets it right on this one I believe.
Thanks man. Lesson learned and I'll keep this on my mind for the future.
She added nothing to my life and I'm glad I cut her out. I'm focusing on myself now for a little while, but I'm back on Tinder so I'm not letting it kick me down too much. Kinda seeing it as her 'winning' if I don't get back into the dating straight away. Seeing it as a nice, big 'Fuck you' to her every time I swipe on a better quality girl.
Thanks again for all your help - much appreciated that you took the time. Every time have the back and forth, I feel like I come away more educated and a lot wiser about dating, women and life in general.
Spider π·
Hey man thanks for the lengthy and detailed reply and sorry about getting back to you a bit late on this. Been catching up on my sleep and getting back into work after the dumpster fire of the vacation last week
Brother_Tucker said:Asides from putting yourself in a position where you were trapped with this girl, you shouldn't feel bad. The problem this girl has is that so many people in her life tolerate her bad behavior and have enabled her to act like this and get away with it. A side note: I thought you didn't sleep with her at all because she was tired after you got her off? Your kind of flipping on this and you don't need to prove anything to people on the internet.
It was pretty stupid of me upon reflection. I have been beating myself up about it this past week or so, but I think I need to chill on this. I get that impression that she's had no corrective behaviour mechanism in her life and people just put up with her bullshit. When I did walk, she blew up my phone (or tried to as I blocked her) and threw a tantrum pretty much. Yeah sorry I probably wasn't very clear on it with my update - we had sex once later that week but it felt like begrudging 'duty sex'.
Brother_Tucker said:As one of the few people that actually held her to a standard, she doesn't like it. Blocking this person out of your life is 100% the correct play.
100%. I must admit, after I got over the initial 'Am I a bad person for doing this?' Beta male thought process, it felt pretty good to stop her dead in her tracks like I did with leaving and blocking her on everything.
Brother_Tucker said:Doesn't mean anything, you've known of her for 5 years and she told you who she is. All you have to do is listen
You're right man. I gotta read between the lines. She's been living in America, so I only saw her couple times a year but never really lived with her like we did the other week. Big mistake on my part which I won't be repeating.
Brother_Tucker said:How? you went to Amsterdam and she covered the cost of the room for the most part? Something to work on is planning out your trips and budgeting a bit more. Β£1200 would have let you go to a lot of places much more exotic.
Everything was booked late (room etc.) and flights have skyrocketed due to the fuel crisis. I did spend a fair bit on meals and gifts whilst I was there too, so this could go someway toward explaining it, but I should've planned better and shopped around - this was too much to spend so I'll learn from this for next time. I reckon I could do South America for a hell of a lot cheaper and there'll be more receptive and feminine women there too. This is something I've been considering doing for a while.
Brother_Tucker said:You can always make more money, it sucks but learn from this
Lesson Learned! I've been signing up for every scrap of overtime going at work and saving up is the new goal. Pretty much working full-time at the minute.
Brother_Tucker said:What are your goals for this? are you working towards getting a higher paying job or do you have a plan in mind. It sounds like this bothers you and I'm curious how you want to move forward
I had a bit of a mental breakdown about 6 months ago (various family and work related issues) and I was off sick from work for 4 months (signed off by a doctor), so this duty manager job I'm doing at the minute is to get me back into work. It's not too taxing and the pay is okay, but I do want a bit more. However, I'm still on antidepressants and I'm not 100% there yet, but I'm hoping to stick this out a bit to put some cash in my back pocket and continue to work on managing my mental health. Recently graduated, so once I'm more evened out, it'll be next on the list to get a decent, better paying job or I'll look at getting a higher-paying role with this company. Work in progress.
Brother_Tucker said:You did abandon her for terrible behavior. Don't even feel remotely guilty about this.
Yes mate, I did feel a bit guilty for about a day or so after, but now I see it as the right decision. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Brother_Tucker said:Yes she realized she was losing control of the situation and hopes you will not have any boundaries you're willing to enforce. I'm glad you followed through and walked away
Felt like I was finally manning up and found my balls when I did this. Found a side of me that I wasn't quite sure I had. You and the other guys who commented were a real big help - big thanks to AskTheDom so thank you for this.
Brother_Tucker said:Let's be honest, no you didn't. You were looking forward to having your way with this girl for weeks. She pitched a place and that's when you decided you wanted to go. Technically you broke the rules by traveling way to far for a hook up. Next trip, where do you want to go and why?
Yeah you're right this was just a big cope on my part and I wasn't being honest with myself. I broke one of the commandments and I paid for it dearly. I'll have a think on that one. Definitely will go on my own and pick an interesting place. Any girls I meet wherever I go will just be the icing on the cake so to speak.
Brother_Tucker said:This is interesting for you to bring up. A lot of your logs imply you don't want a relationship and you're looking for casual. Do you feel you're missing out on a relationship when looking at other people?
Honestly, I think it just pissed me off at the time that I was having a rough time with this chick and I was seeing other people having smooth sailing with the girls they were dating. I do sometimes feel I'm missing out, but I wouldn't get into a relationship again because I like seeing other people and I don't feel like I'm at the level that Andy and some of the other elite guys are at where they are in the very good position that they can write their own ticket and be in a relationship, but sleep with other girls non-monogamously. That would be something I'd consider for the future.
Brother_Tucker said:There are beautiful women all over the world. You will get another chance
True. This was scarcity mindset talk when I need to get back into the abundance mindset. I get a little narrow-minded when I'm pissed off and having a rough time. Thank you for helping me see this.
Brother_Tucker said:You over invested in a girl against your own interest and it blew up. The rules are there to minimize things blowing up in your face and reducing the over all cost to you. Now you can bend or break some rules as you get more experienced, but you're not there yet and should stick to the rules as you build confidence. Also I have to ask, why were you showing this side to her? this is what your guy friends are for. You just cant lean on girls with your vulnerability they just aren't built to help you. Some people may disagree, but I find they just cant look at you and feel desire and help with your emotional burden. It's sad, but its on you to handle this stuff and not depend on her.
Learn from this and move forward. Don't worry about the costs, you did the right thing walking away and cutting contact with someone who would have made your life suck for every second longer she was involved.
This was a very hard, but very important lesson for me to learn. Yeah she found my antidepressants and asked. Me thinking I'd known her for 5 years and could trust her, or rather known 'of her' as you put it which I'm seeing as the truth now, I just told her like a dumbass. Haven't really got any guy friends, so this is something I need to work on. Haven't got any friends full stop really, so yeah I should probably look at addressing this. Totally agree with this now as I read some Red Pill stuff on it which sadly the Red Pill gets it right on this one I believe.
Thanks man. Lesson learned and I'll keep this on my mind for the future.
She added nothing to my life and I'm glad I cut her out. I'm focusing on myself now for a little while, but I'm back on Tinder so I'm not letting it kick me down too much. Kinda seeing it as her 'winning' if I don't get back into the dating straight away. Seeing it as a nice, big 'Fuck you' to her every time I swipe on a better quality girl.
Thanks again for all your help - much appreciated that you took the time. Every time have the back and forth, I feel like I come away more educated and a lot wiser about dating, women and life in general.
Spider π·