Svadhishthana
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- May 31, 2021
Part 3: Analysis
The scene here seems unique in several ways, and is mostly similar to the long-term hostel scene Radical described in his travelling guide. But it might be better described as a sort of temporary, high turnover village. While cliques form, they typically aren't very exclusionary, other than in groups who are here only for a very short time. The longer term residents are actually typically very friendly and eager to make new friends, since everyone is constantly looking for climbing partners or beta on routes. And the scale is significantly larger than a single hostel - the different camps have different vibes, but everyone intermingles. And word travels *fast* through the village - I'll hear about rockfalls or accidents only an hour or two after they happen, and news of parties and events can make it's way around in only hours. But at the same time, most people are only here for a few weeks at most, with a small core (like me) staying for a month or more. The scene has a relatively leftward bent - my libertarian/anarchist views typically make me the most conservative voice in a conversation.
This situation, unfortunately, really lights up my anxiety around dating. For context, I had emotionally neglectful parents and was bullied and socially ostracized in school. This left my brain with the idea that friendship and social acceptance are rare and hard to get, making me paranoid of losing it. And since I exclusively got negative attention from women growing up, my brain defaults to the assumption that any move I make will immediately be rejected, and not only will the girl I hit on reject me (not that big of a deal) but also, she'll tell everyone she knows, which will destroy my whole social support system. Now, I know this is obviously a malfunctioning part of my brain just catastrophizing, but at the same time it is somewhat true. If you are generally liked and held in high regard in your community, women will expect and like it when you hit on them even if they aren't available, and it can actually be good for your odds since you are letting the other women around you know that you are available. But conversely, if you are held in low regard in your community, women will dislike it when you hit on them, and will tell other women, who will put their guard up and further lower your status. So the key is: be generally liked. I really need to internalize the lesson of the #metoo movement - fucking rapists were able to get away with it for decades simply because they were well liked and powerful. So if you are just a guy throwing his hat in the ring in a respectful way, and you are well liked generally, there is literally no negative consequence. At the end of the day, these negative patterns of thinking are why I fail. I have so much of an advantage over so many other guys - I'm tall, white, relatively wealthy, have hair, am in good shape, have a strong jawline and sharp features. Hell, now I even climb relatively hard and hang out with the other hot, hard climbers. But I'm getting trounced here by short, mangey chuffers, and letting opportunities slip away all because my mental game just sucks big fat donkey dick. M and another couple were talking about their poly relationships the other day and I almost had a goddamned panic attack because just mentioning my own sexuality near other people fucking terrifies me and makes me want to blow my brains out so I can exit the conversation.
Additional minor quibbles are that my logistics are bad (I'm sleeping in my Corolla), I'm not as hot as I could be (need a hair cut, and a belly pooch cut), and I could be dressing and accessorizing better. But with the amount of initial attention I'm getting, these things are inconsequential. If I had my head together and had any notion of how to game, I'd be slaying out here.
Specific things I need to work on:
- Be more aggressive about meeting people. Whenever a new person shows up, greet them and welcome them to the area. Figure out how to remember peoples' names the *first time*, and make a point to ask how long they are around for (a few opportunities slipped away simply because they left before I even thought of making a move).
- Figure out how to be the organizer/initiator of fun things that are going down. I'm such a follower here.
- Be more consistent in my schedule. It's pretty easy to skip bathing here, as almost no one does it every day. Plus it's too easy to push my meditation back because I wanted to sleep in, and then push work back because I was meditating, and then push working out back because I was busy working, etc. Getting chores done earlier means I can socialize earlier and easier.
- Figure out how to isolate. It is *so social* here, making an explicit move is hard to execute by just waiting for the two of you to be alone together. I need to figure out how to come up with excuses to be alone on the fly.
- Be more flirty on first meeting women. Stop assuming they are dating a guy just because they showed up with them or are hanging out with them. While being too aggressive is obviously a bad idea that will gain the ire of the other guys and will get you a reputation, you can at least be fun and make strong eye contact. Be okay flirting with two women at once. People will just assume it is your personality.
- Figure out how to ditch the annoying friend. Honestly, an advanced technique - this only happened once, after I dropped the ball a few times.
- Figure out how to turn a guy around who is going after the same girl. Again, advanced.
- Figure out how to be the guy who starts the party.
- Get comfortable dancing, and get okay at it.
- Learn Spanish. If I were somewhat proficient, I'd probably be able to get a good number of locals.
Part 4: Life Going Forward
Obviously, quitting my job has been delayed a bit. I still want to get my bonus, and back pay for my annual pay raise. And I need to get the Airbnb back up and running again.
Meanwhile, I've decided I want a real home base. So my plan in the medium term is to buy a used trailer, put it in my back yard in Denver, and fix it up so it is suitable for long term living. This will allow me to hang out in the Front Range and keep an eye on my investments when I need to while still living rent free - but with the added benefit of having my own toilet and shower. With some tasteful decorating and landscaping in the back yard, I think it'll be a hit with women - or at least the type of women that is my type.
Meditating over the last 2 months has proved immensely beneficial. I need to hammer it into my routine so I never miss a session, and can reap the benefits. I also want to try using psychedelics to help deal with my shit - will listen to the podcast episode Andy did and have reached out to a friend in town who worked with a psychedelic therapist.
Once I'm back in Denver, I want to try a season of focusing on bodybuilding. Taking a few months to fix Airbnb stuff and to get and fix up a trailer will provide me time for this. The crux here will not be overtraining, since I know my friends will want me to be getting out on the weekends - I'm already invited on 2 canyon trips, 2 rock climbing trips, an ice climbing trip, and a motorcycle trip.
Simultaneously, I can spin up the apps again and ping back a few girls I previously laid in the area. Circus girl reached out while I was down here, wanting to fuck, so hopefully she's still game once I get back. I wanna shoot for getting my lay count up to 20 before I quit. I think obviously, the AA program would really help me, but I'm extremely hesitant to do it in the town I live. But I will try giving the first few exercises a shot and see how I feel.
So now planning to quit my job in mid spring.
In the short term - let's see if I can land V (she just texted back), and shoot my shot with Si, K, and St.
LFG
The scene here seems unique in several ways, and is mostly similar to the long-term hostel scene Radical described in his travelling guide. But it might be better described as a sort of temporary, high turnover village. While cliques form, they typically aren't very exclusionary, other than in groups who are here only for a very short time. The longer term residents are actually typically very friendly and eager to make new friends, since everyone is constantly looking for climbing partners or beta on routes. And the scale is significantly larger than a single hostel - the different camps have different vibes, but everyone intermingles. And word travels *fast* through the village - I'll hear about rockfalls or accidents only an hour or two after they happen, and news of parties and events can make it's way around in only hours. But at the same time, most people are only here for a few weeks at most, with a small core (like me) staying for a month or more. The scene has a relatively leftward bent - my libertarian/anarchist views typically make me the most conservative voice in a conversation.
This situation, unfortunately, really lights up my anxiety around dating. For context, I had emotionally neglectful parents and was bullied and socially ostracized in school. This left my brain with the idea that friendship and social acceptance are rare and hard to get, making me paranoid of losing it. And since I exclusively got negative attention from women growing up, my brain defaults to the assumption that any move I make will immediately be rejected, and not only will the girl I hit on reject me (not that big of a deal) but also, she'll tell everyone she knows, which will destroy my whole social support system. Now, I know this is obviously a malfunctioning part of my brain just catastrophizing, but at the same time it is somewhat true. If you are generally liked and held in high regard in your community, women will expect and like it when you hit on them even if they aren't available, and it can actually be good for your odds since you are letting the other women around you know that you are available. But conversely, if you are held in low regard in your community, women will dislike it when you hit on them, and will tell other women, who will put their guard up and further lower your status. So the key is: be generally liked. I really need to internalize the lesson of the #metoo movement - fucking rapists were able to get away with it for decades simply because they were well liked and powerful. So if you are just a guy throwing his hat in the ring in a respectful way, and you are well liked generally, there is literally no negative consequence. At the end of the day, these negative patterns of thinking are why I fail. I have so much of an advantage over so many other guys - I'm tall, white, relatively wealthy, have hair, am in good shape, have a strong jawline and sharp features. Hell, now I even climb relatively hard and hang out with the other hot, hard climbers. But I'm getting trounced here by short, mangey chuffers, and letting opportunities slip away all because my mental game just sucks big fat donkey dick. M and another couple were talking about their poly relationships the other day and I almost had a goddamned panic attack because just mentioning my own sexuality near other people fucking terrifies me and makes me want to blow my brains out so I can exit the conversation.
Additional minor quibbles are that my logistics are bad (I'm sleeping in my Corolla), I'm not as hot as I could be (need a hair cut, and a belly pooch cut), and I could be dressing and accessorizing better. But with the amount of initial attention I'm getting, these things are inconsequential. If I had my head together and had any notion of how to game, I'd be slaying out here.
Specific things I need to work on:
- Be more aggressive about meeting people. Whenever a new person shows up, greet them and welcome them to the area. Figure out how to remember peoples' names the *first time*, and make a point to ask how long they are around for (a few opportunities slipped away simply because they left before I even thought of making a move).
- Figure out how to be the organizer/initiator of fun things that are going down. I'm such a follower here.
- Be more consistent in my schedule. It's pretty easy to skip bathing here, as almost no one does it every day. Plus it's too easy to push my meditation back because I wanted to sleep in, and then push work back because I was meditating, and then push working out back because I was busy working, etc. Getting chores done earlier means I can socialize earlier and easier.
- Figure out how to isolate. It is *so social* here, making an explicit move is hard to execute by just waiting for the two of you to be alone together. I need to figure out how to come up with excuses to be alone on the fly.
- Be more flirty on first meeting women. Stop assuming they are dating a guy just because they showed up with them or are hanging out with them. While being too aggressive is obviously a bad idea that will gain the ire of the other guys and will get you a reputation, you can at least be fun and make strong eye contact. Be okay flirting with two women at once. People will just assume it is your personality.
- Figure out how to ditch the annoying friend. Honestly, an advanced technique - this only happened once, after I dropped the ball a few times.
- Figure out how to turn a guy around who is going after the same girl. Again, advanced.
- Figure out how to be the guy who starts the party.
- Get comfortable dancing, and get okay at it.
- Learn Spanish. If I were somewhat proficient, I'd probably be able to get a good number of locals.
Part 4: Life Going Forward
Obviously, quitting my job has been delayed a bit. I still want to get my bonus, and back pay for my annual pay raise. And I need to get the Airbnb back up and running again.
Meanwhile, I've decided I want a real home base. So my plan in the medium term is to buy a used trailer, put it in my back yard in Denver, and fix it up so it is suitable for long term living. This will allow me to hang out in the Front Range and keep an eye on my investments when I need to while still living rent free - but with the added benefit of having my own toilet and shower. With some tasteful decorating and landscaping in the back yard, I think it'll be a hit with women - or at least the type of women that is my type.
Meditating over the last 2 months has proved immensely beneficial. I need to hammer it into my routine so I never miss a session, and can reap the benefits. I also want to try using psychedelics to help deal with my shit - will listen to the podcast episode Andy did and have reached out to a friend in town who worked with a psychedelic therapist.
Once I'm back in Denver, I want to try a season of focusing on bodybuilding. Taking a few months to fix Airbnb stuff and to get and fix up a trailer will provide me time for this. The crux here will not be overtraining, since I know my friends will want me to be getting out on the weekends - I'm already invited on 2 canyon trips, 2 rock climbing trips, an ice climbing trip, and a motorcycle trip.
Simultaneously, I can spin up the apps again and ping back a few girls I previously laid in the area. Circus girl reached out while I was down here, wanting to fuck, so hopefully she's still game once I get back. I wanna shoot for getting my lay count up to 20 before I quit. I think obviously, the AA program would really help me, but I'm extremely hesitant to do it in the town I live. But I will try giving the first few exercises a shot and see how I feel.
So now planning to quit my job in mid spring.
In the short term - let's see if I can land V (she just texted back), and shoot my shot with Si, K, and St.
LFG